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Not really comparable. Flying cars are not technological fiction, they're just called helicopters, it's just that from a economic/ecology POV they make no sense

by renox 2y ago

Not really comparable. Flying cars are not technological fiction, they're just called helicopters, it's just that from a economic/ecology POV they make no sense. Space travel between worlds is SF.

short_sells_poo 2y ago
But we have sent probes to other worlds? What is science fiction about this? A manned mission to Mars is entirely feasible with current technology. In fact I'd argue it'd have been feasible with 1980s technology, it was simply costly. If we (we as in humankind) wanted, we could have a base on Mars for some time now. Who is to say what our capabilities will be in 50 years? In 100 years? A manned mission to another solar system is going to be very-very difficult, we'd need generational space ship/habitats. Note that difficult is not the same as impossible. Such a ship could be feasibly constructed with modern day technology, but it would be enormously costly so there was no motivation to do it. I'd agree with your point that a mission to another galaxy is basically unimaginable with technology we can realistically theorize about today. We'd need extremely exotic physics which are unlikely to be doable ever.
- hypertele-Xii 2y ago
  > But we have sent probes to other worlds? What is science fiction about this? Probes aren't space travel for humans. > A manned mission to Mars is entirely feasible with current technology. As no manned missions to Mars have ever proven this conjecture, it is still entirely speculation on your part. > A manned mission to another solar system is going to be very-very difficult, we'd need generational space ship/habitats. Note that difficult is not the same as impossible. No, it is impossible. Humans cannot survive in space that long. Never have, currently can't, and there's no precedent to assume it ever becomes possible. Pure speculation on your part.
  - mehphp 2y ago
    >As no manned missions to Mars have ever proven this conjecture, it is still entirely speculation on your part. But we do have manned missions to other celestial bodies, and we have sent and landed probes on Mars. I'm confused as to how a manned mission to Mars is "entirely speculation". >no precedent to assume it ever becomes possible This isn't a qualifier for what is possible. We knew it was possible to go to the moon before there was precedent. If anything, you calling it impossible is pure speculation. OP is right, difficult is not the same as impossible.
    - tgv 2y ago
      Manned, i.e. containing people (men).
      - mehphp 2y ago
        um, yes?
  - TimTheTinker 2y ago
    Agree that interstellar travel is impossible with current tech. But based on what I know, I don't see any reason to believe a manned mission to Mars is impossible with current technology. Do you have specific reasons we can't, or examples of technological gaps?
    - JPLeRouzic 2y ago
      - One year in weightlessness will almost disable someone and give him blindness, rapid bone loss, cachexia, cardiovascular problems, and sometimes immune diseases. - One year enduring radiation sickness.
      - TimTheTinker 2y ago
        - artificial gravity through rotation - various strategies to block incoming cosmic rays: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_ionizing_radiation_in_spaceflight https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_ionizing_radiatio.... In particular, hydrogen-rich plastics.
- repelsteeltje 2y ago
  Sometimes Science Fiction is confused with Fantasy, but as far as it means "fiction about things that are scientifically possible but don't exist" I'd say traveling to other planets is SF. Traveling to other worlds (ie. interstellar) is fantasy. And living on other planets (terraforming) or outer space is somewhere in the middle: technically not impossible but very undesirable without major future tech. Fans of space colonization are encouraged to read: a City on Mars by Weinersmiths, https://www.acityonmars.com/ https://www.acityonmars.com/
VoreLuka 2y ago
It miht be science fiction but before the space race traveling to the moon was science fiction too. Yet we did not only travel to the moon but actually walk on it. I don't have any doubts that at some point humanity will find a way to do interstellar travel. Though I doubt it will happen in our lifetime

by renox 2y ago

Not really comparable. Flying cars are not technological fiction, they're just called helicopters, it's just that from a economic/ecology POV they make no sense. Space travel between worlds is SF.

short_sells_poo 2y ago

But we have sent probes to other worlds? What is science fiction about this? A manned mission to Mars is entirely feasible with current technology. In fact I'd argue it'd have been feasible with 1980s technology, it was simply costly. If we (we as in humankind) wanted, we could have a base on Mars for some time now. Who is to say what our capabilities will be in 50 years? In 100 years? A manned mission to another solar system is going to be very-very difficult, we'd need generational space ship/habitats. Note that difficult is not the same as impossible. Such a ship could be feasibly constructed with modern day technology, but it would be enormously costly so there was no motivation to do it. I'd agree with your point that a mission to another galaxy is basically unimaginable with technology we can realistically theorize about today. We'd need extremely exotic physics which are unlikely to be doable ever.

hypertele-Xii 2y ago
> But we have sent probes to other worlds? What is science fiction about this? Probes aren't space travel for humans. > A manned mission to Mars is entirely feasible with current technology. As no manned missions to Mars have ever proven this conjecture, it is still entirely speculation on your part. > A manned mission to another solar system is going to be very-very difficult, we'd need generational space ship/habitats. Note that difficult is not the same as impossible. No, it is impossible. Humans cannot survive in space that long. Never have, currently can't, and there's no precedent to assume it ever becomes possible. Pure speculation on your part.
- mehphp 2y ago
  >As no manned missions to Mars have ever proven this conjecture, it is still entirely speculation on your part. But we do have manned missions to other celestial bodies, and we have sent and landed probes on Mars. I'm confused as to how a manned mission to Mars is "entirely speculation". >no precedent to assume it ever becomes possible This isn't a qualifier for what is possible. We knew it was possible to go to the moon before there was precedent. If anything, you calling it impossible is pure speculation. OP is right, difficult is not the same as impossible.
  - tgv 2y ago
    Manned, i.e. containing people (men).
    - mehphp 2y ago
      um, yes?
- TimTheTinker 2y ago
  Agree that interstellar travel is impossible with current tech. But based on what I know, I don't see any reason to believe a manned mission to Mars is impossible with current technology. Do you have specific reasons we can't, or examples of technological gaps?
  - JPLeRouzic 2y ago
    - One year in weightlessness will almost disable someone and give him blindness, rapid bone loss, cachexia, cardiovascular problems, and sometimes immune diseases. - One year enduring radiation sickness.
    - TimTheTinker 2y ago
      - artificial gravity through rotation - various strategies to block incoming cosmic rays: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_ionizing_radiation_in_spaceflight https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_ionizing_radiatio.... In particular, hydrogen-rich plastics.
repelsteeltje 2y ago
Sometimes Science Fiction is confused with Fantasy, but as far as it means "fiction about things that are scientifically possible but don't exist" I'd say traveling to other planets is SF. Traveling to other worlds (ie. interstellar) is fantasy. And living on other planets (terraforming) or outer space is somewhere in the middle: technically not impossible but very undesirable without major future tech. Fans of space colonization are encouraged to read: a City on Mars by Weinersmiths, https://www.acityonmars.com/ https://www.acityonmars.com/

VoreLuka 2y ago

It miht be science fiction but before the space race traveling to the moon was science fiction too. Yet we did not only travel to the moon but actually walk on it. I don't have any doubts that at some point humanity will find a way to do interstellar travel. Though I doubt it will happen in our lifetime