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Wait what? No employment contract?? Can you unpack this a little bit?

alwa 2y ago
I uh… USians don’t do those. When they do, it tends to be a one-sided kind of thing to protect the company’s interests—NDAs, codes of conduct, accept our policies today and whatever we change them to in the future, that sort of thing. Most places, work happens at the whim of the employer (and, for what little it’s worth, the whim of the employee): employment is “at-will,” states are “right-to-work,” and so on. Don’t know about others, but I’ve never once in my life signed a contract to work in the US.
- meindnoch 2y ago
  Wtf? So how do you know your current salary? How do you know your work hours?
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  - nrb 2y ago
    This info often comes in the form of an offer letter that is accepted verbally or in writing. In most cases employment in the US is at-will and does not involve a formal employment contract: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment
  - DavidPeiffer 2y ago
    Your monetary compensation is in an offer letter you sign to accept the role. Salary exempt status is a fixed value per time period, or separately a hourly rate. If paid hourly, you're typically entitled to 1.5x pay after 40 hours of work. Salaried exempt status are not mandated overtime pay. What hours you work depends. Salaried is expecting a job to be done regardless of the hours to complete. Hourly is a mixed bag of "the schedule for next week is posted every Tuesday" (common in restaurants) or routine hours long-term (such as shift work in factories). It's awkward to try to explain, but here are some pros and cons from other people. https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditForGrownups/comments/16606tt/which_is_better_hourly_or_salary/ https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditForGrownups/comments/16606tt/...
  - smsm42 2y ago
    Most tech positions don't have fixed work hours, beyond what's required by the law. The salary, position, benefits, etc. are the part of employment offer that you do sign, and there are employment handbooks etc. that you also acknowledge when you onboard, but from the company side the offer is usually the only document they sign.

alwa 2y ago

I uh… USians don’t do those. When they do, it tends to be a one-sided kind of thing to protect the company’s interests—NDAs, codes of conduct, accept our policies today and whatever we change them to in the future, that sort of thing. Most places, work happens at the whim of the employer (and, for what little it’s worth, the whim of the employee): employment is “at-will,” states are “right-to-work,” and so on. Don’t know about others, but I’ve never once in my life signed a contract to work in the US.

meindnoch 2y ago
Wtf? So how do you know your current salary? How do you know your work hours?
- deleted 2y ago
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- nrb 2y ago
  This info often comes in the form of an offer letter that is accepted verbally or in writing. In most cases employment in the US is at-will and does not involve a formal employment contract: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment
- DavidPeiffer 2y ago
  Your monetary compensation is in an offer letter you sign to accept the role. Salary exempt status is a fixed value per time period, or separately a hourly rate. If paid hourly, you're typically entitled to 1.5x pay after 40 hours of work. Salaried exempt status are not mandated overtime pay. What hours you work depends. Salaried is expecting a job to be done regardless of the hours to complete. Hourly is a mixed bag of "the schedule for next week is posted every Tuesday" (common in restaurants) or routine hours long-term (such as shift work in factories). It's awkward to try to explain, but here are some pros and cons from other people. https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditForGrownups/comments/16606tt/which_is_better_hourly_or_salary/ https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditForGrownups/comments/16606tt/...
- smsm42 2y ago
  Most tech positions don't have fixed work hours, beyond what's required by the law. The salary, position, benefits, etc. are the part of employment offer that you do sign, and there are employment handbooks etc. that you also acknowledge when you onboard, but from the company side the offer is usually the only document they sign.