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This is one of the shittiest pieces of behaviour by an employer I've ever read about. Just awful. Whilst this will make the square root of no difference, I don

This is one of the shittiest pieces of behaviour by an employer I've ever read about. Just awful. Whilst this will make the square root of no difference, I don't want to support Mozilla with this sort of behaviour going on, so what do I do for a web browser now? I switched back to Firefox as my main browser some years ago because, well, Google and privacy concerns related to them. What now? Brave is dicey. Opera? SeaMonkey (which I think may nowadays be independent of Mozilla)? The thing is I do a lot of web development so I need a browser that offers an at least decent developer experience on macOS.

ZunarJ5 2y ago
Ladybird
- shafyy 2y ago
  Sure but Ladybird won't be released before Summer 2026...
  - cholantesh 2y ago
    Is the source not available to build a preview today?
    - shafyy 2y ago
      Might be, but I doubt that it is a full-time replacement for a mature browser like Firefox today.
r-w 2y ago
Brave with the shady features switched off. There’s still some privacy burden on the user, but it’s no comparison with Chrome and they’re pushing the envelope on privacy in other aspects. Firefox forks are another option, depending on your reasons for avoiding the original.
- akimbostrawman 2y ago
  >Brave with the shady features switched off any examples? if you mean crypto and ads then these are opt in last time i checked.
shiroiushi 2y ago
>so what do I do for a web browser now? Keep using Firefox (with uBO installed), but disable "Pocket" and switch off all the telemetry.
shrikant 2y ago
https://zen-browser.app/ https://zen-browser.app/ is a browser based on the Firefox engine.
- monsieurgaufre 2y ago
  zen browser never successfully installed even after multiple tries on my computers.
bbor 2y ago
This is probably a hot take but I’m gonna stay with Mozilla. We don’t have all the details, but it sure seems like a rotten C-suite, and I’m gonna count on the justice system to find the facts and mete out some, well, justice. Coca-Cola literally hired death squads to kill unionizing farmers, Chiquita did the same thing but like a few months ago, and Google is rotten in to the core of its motivations in a way that no amount of C-suite-clearing could help with — and yet I use all of their products, even when I try to avoid them. But I have the whole “revolution” thing to fall back on, which is a nice emotional safety blanket. Boycotts are already very tough to use effectively, so I don’t have a ton of hope for using them without a real ethical alternative…

ZunarJ5 2y ago

Ladybird

shafyy 2y ago
Sure but Ladybird won't be released before Summer 2026...
- cholantesh 2y ago
  Is the source not available to build a preview today?
  - shafyy 2y ago
    Might be, but I doubt that it is a full-time replacement for a mature browser like Firefox today.

r-w 2y ago

Brave with the shady features switched off. There’s still some privacy burden on the user, but it’s no comparison with Chrome and they’re pushing the envelope on privacy in other aspects. Firefox forks are another option, depending on your reasons for avoiding the original.

akimbostrawman 2y ago
>Brave with the shady features switched off any examples? if you mean crypto and ads then these are opt in last time i checked.

shiroiushi 2y ago

>so what do I do for a web browser now? Keep using Firefox (with uBO installed), but disable "Pocket" and switch off all the telemetry.

shrikant 2y ago

https://zen-browser.app/ https://zen-browser.app/ is a browser based on the Firefox engine.

monsieurgaufre 2y ago
zen browser never successfully installed even after multiple tries on my computers.

bbor 2y ago

This is probably a hot take but I’m gonna stay with Mozilla. We don’t have all the details, but it sure seems like a rotten C-suite, and I’m gonna count on the justice system to find the facts and mete out some, well, justice. Coca-Cola literally hired death squads to kill unionizing farmers, Chiquita did the same thing but like a few months ago, and Google is rotten in to the core of its motivations in a way that no amount of C-suite-clearing could help with — and yet I use all of their products, even when I try to avoid them. But I have the whole “revolution” thing to fall back on, which is a nice emotional safety blanket. Boycotts are already very tough to use effectively, so I don’t have a ton of hope for using them without a real ethical alternative…