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Tech Jobs Have Dried Up–and Aren't Coming Back Soon

8 points by mudil 2y ago

bbor 2y ago
A) any wizards have a free link? B) “let go from an online-marketing role at eBay” doesn’t really seem like an indictment of “software engineering”, but presumably that story is just a short hook. C) reading software engineering is in trouble because of AI has me immediately dubious lol — pretty counterintuitive on the face of it. But hey, business isn’t always rational I guess! D) this article has a tough road ahead of it, considering it directly contradicts the department of labor’s “Job Outlook”, which is considerably better than most industries: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/software-developers.htm https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/... Heh, kinda amazing how much musing I can get out of a headline and two sentences…
- icsa 2y ago
  https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/tech-jobs-have-dried-up-and-aren-t-coming-back-soon/ar-AA1qOssG https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/tech-jobs-have-dried...
- mech422 2y ago
  yeah - the bls data still looks pretty good...as long as you check 'software developer' and not 'programmer' :-P guess BLS likes title inflation at least...
- einsteinx2 2y ago
  Yeah the first sentence is “Finding a job in tech by applying online was fruitless”, as if that wasn’t already the case even in the height of the hiring boom in the pandemic and earlier. I got my current job in mid 2020 after applying online to various companies and not hearing back from a single one. One post made for me on the internal YC forums immediately got me a full week of interviews, and a quick post on LinkedIn had an old coworker refer me to the company they work at that lead to immediate interviewing and ultimately a hire. So clearly I was in demand, but applying directly online just doesn’t work period (statistically I’m sure some have gotten lucky with it though). For context, I’m a Staff Engineer with 15 years experience, ex-FAANG, ex-YC startup. My point being that they’re trying to argue that because applying online now doesn’t work, there’s a lack of jobs, but in my experience at least it never worked. I’ve never once in my whole career gotten a job from applying directly, only crickets… I didn’t bother reading the rest of the article since the initial premise was already BS (not to mention the fact their example wasn’t even an SWE), though did I skim it and they seemed imply it was easy to apply online previously.
rderewianko 2y ago
https://archive.is/jF7Qr https://archive.is/jF7Qr

8 points by mudil 2y ago

bbor 2y ago

A) any wizards have a free link? B) “let go from an online-marketing role at eBay” doesn’t really seem like an indictment of “software engineering”, but presumably that story is just a short hook. C) reading software engineering is in trouble because of AI has me immediately dubious lol — pretty counterintuitive on the face of it. But hey, business isn’t always rational I guess! D) this article has a tough road ahead of it, considering it directly contradicts the department of labor’s “Job Outlook”, which is considerably better than most industries: https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/software-developers.htm https://www.bls.gov/ooh/computer-and-information-technology/... Heh, kinda amazing how much musing I can get out of a headline and two sentences…

icsa 2y ago
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/tech-jobs-have-dried-up-and-aren-t-coming-back-soon/ar-AA1qOssG https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/tech-jobs-have-dried...
mech422 2y ago
yeah - the bls data still looks pretty good...as long as you check 'software developer' and not 'programmer' :-P guess BLS likes title inflation at least...
einsteinx2 2y ago
Yeah the first sentence is “Finding a job in tech by applying online was fruitless”, as if that wasn’t already the case even in the height of the hiring boom in the pandemic and earlier. I got my current job in mid 2020 after applying online to various companies and not hearing back from a single one. One post made for me on the internal YC forums immediately got me a full week of interviews, and a quick post on LinkedIn had an old coworker refer me to the company they work at that lead to immediate interviewing and ultimately a hire. So clearly I was in demand, but applying directly online just doesn’t work period (statistically I’m sure some have gotten lucky with it though). For context, I’m a Staff Engineer with 15 years experience, ex-FAANG, ex-YC startup. My point being that they’re trying to argue that because applying online now doesn’t work, there’s a lack of jobs, but in my experience at least it never worked. I’ve never once in my whole career gotten a job from applying directly, only crickets… I didn’t bother reading the rest of the article since the initial premise was already BS (not to mention the fact their example wasn’t even an SWE), though did I skim it and they seemed imply it was easy to apply online previously.

rderewianko 2y ago

https://archive.is/jF7Qr https://archive.is/jF7Qr