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Remake the form factor of the 4S and we’ll talk. That’s the last phone that was comfortable to hold.
by user3939382 2y ago
Remake the form factor of the 4S and we’ll talk. That’s the last phone that was comfortable to hold.
- Tempest1981 2y agoThe 13 Mini was also a nice size. Impossible to find nowadays. Apparently 95% of users want big phones.
- worthless-trash 2y agoI guess we're part of the 5% ?
- interstice 2y ago5% checking in
- sph 2y agoI get that some people spend their lives on their phones, but myself, with desktop, laptop and big hands, I don't want to carry half a tablet in my pocket to text people and play music. I adore my 12 Mini. I just wish it felt as thin as the 8
- Terretta 2y agoIt seems most who are not using tech professionally don't particularly want or habituate all the multiple devices, and as such, the phone becomes their "tablet" experience. No desktop, no laptop, if there's an ipad it's in a different room, the bigger screen of the phone means they only reach for the one thing.
- ectospheno 2y agoI also only text and play music. I get the largest phone available because I'm old and eyesight. Older people tend to have money.
- Tempest1981 2y ago> I just wish it felt as thin as the 8 It's very close: 12 mini -> 8 -> SE gen 1 (or iPhone 5) Height: 131.5 mm -> 138.4 mm -> 123.8 mm Width: 64.2 mm -> 67.3 mm -> 58.6 mm Depth: 7.4 mm -> 7.3 mm -> 7.6 mm Weight: 135 grams -> 148 grams -> 113 grams https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-12-mini,iphone-8,iphone-se https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-12-mi...
- sph 2y agoTrue, but the 8 was rounded at the sides, so even if technically close in size, the square edges of the recent models make the phone feel bulkier.
- usui 2y agoWhat issue did you have with iPhone 5s and iPhone SE 2016? They were better than the 4S.
- user3939382 2y agoThe SE is rounded and larger. The 4S’ size and shape made it very secure in my hand.
- wodenokoto 2y agoHow was the form factor of 4S different than 4? I think the ridges on the sides were placed differently but that can’t honestly be something you care about?
- 1d22a 2y agoThe way I read it, it's just because the 4S came later, hence being the last phone of that form factor.
- Terretta 2y agoThe 4s married both the design refresh and a generational internals upgrade, arguably Apple's first "perfect" (for its time) iPhone. https://everymac.com/systems/apple/iphone/iphone-faq/differences-between-iphone-4s-iphone-4.html https://everymac.com/systems/apple/iphone/iphone-faq/differe...
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- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoThe 4 series was also plain beautiful
- fire_lake 2y agoApple listened. They made the 12 Mini and it sold poorly. But persevered and released the 13 Mini. Again, it sold poorly, so they gave up. Don’t blame Apple here, vast majority want gigantic phones.
- joshstrange 2y agoI hear you and I agree on the surface but I really wish Apple better understood 2 things: 1. Not every device can be your best seller 2. Some product categories are important to fill even if sales are low (even very low) Apple doesn’t release per-device breakdowns so it’s hard to have conversations on this topic but I’d bet money that the Mini (or another example: the Mac Pro) sold at levels that most companies would drool over.
- lesuorac 2y agoBut is a sale of a mini at the cost of a non-mini? Like if 3/4 of the mini buyer would have just gotten the next smallest form factor then you might not want the large time responsibility of another product.
- joshstrange 2y agoI understand that, and obviously the line has to be drawn somewhere. I just think a company of Apple’s size/means is perfectly capable of maintaining and producing a mini for the people that want it. Then again, that’s easy for me to say I don’t run Apple.
- maximus-decimus 2y agoOf course they're capable of doing it. Scarlet Johanson is also capable of dating me. They just don't want to.
- ssl-3 2y agoThey just didn't sell very well at all. I've seen estimates that the little phones represented just 5-6% of total iPhone sales while they were around. They're darling little devices, but they were simply not very popular. Now, sure: You or I would probably love to have a product that "failed" by selling only as much as 5% of iPhone sales. We'd either be rolling in dough, or working our nuts off trying to figure out how to keep up production and sustain this beast, or both. "Only" five million units sold (or whatever), at ~$700 each? Fuck yeah! But we're not Apple. Apple is already rolling in dough. They want product lines which work on a much bigger scale than that or it simply isn't worth their time -- those engineering and marketing expenses are more-profitably spent elsewhere, where they get 20x the return.
- euroderf 2y agoSE's seem to have problems with many websites that blithely assume larger form factors. Not a blocker tho.
- alpaca128 2y agoIt's the other way around: websites have problems with small browser windows. And not just on phones, just yesterday an online shop's product images were invisible and glitchy unless the browser took up at least 2/3 of my 28" screen.