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Users Get Apple Intelligence to Run on Older Phones

40 points by gsibble 2y ago

glial 2y ago
> Shame on you Apple. This is just annoying. It's not clear that Apple Intelligence runs well on older phones. Good LLM are notoriously slow on non-optimized hardware.
- jahewson 2y ago
  Yup. Battery life too.
- anonzzzies 2y ago
  Many people like to decide for themselves I believe; Apple can warn that it will run badly and burn through your battery faster, but if the user still wants it, they should be able to switch it on no?
  - MaxikCZ 2y ago
    What? User in control!? Heresy!
  - throwaway48540 2y ago
    Many people like to decide for themselves and then trash the product/company when it doesn't work - especially in the Apple ecosystem where they sort of guarantee the user experience will be good. While I also like to decide for myself, I understand why Apple would decide for themselves they don't want to risk that.
    - anonzzzies 2y ago
      Yeah, I see that; it's like when people order Szechuan hotpot ultra hot and then complain it was too hot. But as I paid like 1500 euros for the device, I want the choice. They don't have to make it easy, it just has to be possible if I really want. In my opinion.
  - gregoriol 2y ago
    Most users don't understand those details: how many really understand all those authorisation popups? If you give too much choice to most users, they'll find it difficult to navigate. There should be an "expert" setting for those options, hiding them from the standard display.
- hnthr_w_y 2y ago
  It's not just LLMs. Older phones also have the 'remove object' feature on the Photos app disabled, and they also won't receive the OpenAI integration either. Locally running LLM is one thing. An iPhone 14 is perfectly capable of removing an object and talking to ChatGPT. Yet these are disabled on 14 and earlier phones.
jerlam 2y ago
Reminds me of when I jailbroke my first iPhone to enable wallpaper.
tomas789 2y ago
Claiming that the hardware is capable of running Apple Intelligence just because it can show up a settings and missleading at best and a lie at worst.
quitit 2y ago
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- gsibble 2y ago
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pch00 2y ago
Sounds familiar... https://www.laptopmag.com/software/windows-11s-ai-recall-feature-can-run-on-non-copilot-pcs-heres-how https://www.laptopmag.com/software/windows-11s-ai-recall-fea...
appendix-rock 2y ago
I wish I could downvote this drivel into the ground. The author is clearly working backwards from their utter grumpiness toward Apple. I’d love to see this exchanged with a ‘source’ that’s not a wannabe tech journalist poorly editorialising. We know that LLM inference chews resources, and it’s a completely common and justifiable call by Apple to limit the hardware that ‘supports’ it. I’m genuinely not sure what’d make people like this actually happy. These sorts of outrage merchants are so tiring.
- quitit 2y ago
  Here's a discussion from a group of people who are trying it out: https://www.reddit.com/r/sideloaded/comments/1fjlzrq/has_anyone_managed_to_install_apple_intelligence/ https://www.reddit.com/r/sideloaded/comments/1fjlzrq/has_any... The take away is that it doesn't actually work.

40 points by gsibble 2y ago

> Shame on you Apple. This is just annoying. It's not clear that Apple Intelligence runs well on older phones. Good LLM are notoriously slow on non-optimized hardware.

jahewson 2y ago
Yup. Battery life too.
anonzzzies 2y ago
Many people like to decide for themselves I believe; Apple can warn that it will run badly and burn through your battery faster, but if the user still wants it, they should be able to switch it on no?
- MaxikCZ 2y ago
  What? User in control!? Heresy!
- throwaway48540 2y ago
  Many people like to decide for themselves and then trash the product/company when it doesn't work - especially in the Apple ecosystem where they sort of guarantee the user experience will be good. While I also like to decide for myself, I understand why Apple would decide for themselves they don't want to risk that.
  - anonzzzies 2y ago
    Yeah, I see that; it's like when people order Szechuan hotpot ultra hot and then complain it was too hot. But as I paid like 1500 euros for the device, I want the choice. They don't have to make it easy, it just has to be possible if I really want. In my opinion.
- gregoriol 2y ago
  Most users don't understand those details: how many really understand all those authorisation popups? If you give too much choice to most users, they'll find it difficult to navigate. There should be an "expert" setting for those options, hiding them from the standard display.
hnthr_w_y 2y ago
It's not just LLMs. Older phones also have the 'remove object' feature on the Photos app disabled, and they also won't receive the OpenAI integration either. Locally running LLM is one thing. An iPhone 14 is perfectly capable of removing an object and talking to ChatGPT. Yet these are disabled on 14 and earlier phones.

jerlam 2y ago

Reminds me of when I jailbroke my first iPhone to enable wallpaper.

tomas789 2y ago

Claiming that the hardware is capable of running Apple Intelligence just because it can show up a settings and missleading at best and a lie at worst.

quitit 2y ago

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gsibble 2y ago
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pch00 2y ago

Sounds familiar... https://www.laptopmag.com/software/windows-11s-ai-recall-feature-can-run-on-non-copilot-pcs-heres-how https://www.laptopmag.com/software/windows-11s-ai-recall-fea...

appendix-rock 2y ago

I wish I could downvote this drivel into the ground. The author is clearly working backwards from their utter grumpiness toward Apple. I’d love to see this exchanged with a ‘source’ that’s not a wannabe tech journalist poorly editorialising. We know that LLM inference chews resources, and it’s a completely common and justifiable call by Apple to limit the hardware that ‘supports’ it. I’m genuinely not sure what’d make people like this actually happy. These sorts of outrage merchants are so tiring.

quitit 2y ago
Here's a discussion from a group of people who are trying it out: https://www.reddit.com/r/sideloaded/comments/1fjlzrq/has_anyone_managed_to_install_apple_intelligence/ https://www.reddit.com/r/sideloaded/comments/1fjlzrq/has_any... The take away is that it doesn't actually work.