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To be fair (or frank?), OpenAI were open (no pun intended) about them being "open" today but probably needing to be "closed" in the future, even back in 2019. N

by diggan 2y ago

To be fair (or frank?), OpenAI were open (no pun intended) about them being "open" today but probably needing to be "closed" in the future, even back in 2019. Not sure if them still choosing the name they did is worse/better, because they seem to have known about this. OpenAI Charter 2019 (https://web.archive.org/web/20190630172131/https://openai.com/charter/ https://web.archive.org/web/20190630172131/https://openai.co...): > We are committed to providing public goods that help society navigate the path to AGI. Today this includes publishing most of our AI research, but we expect that safety and security concerns will reduce our traditional publishing in the future, while increasing the importance of sharing safety, policy, and standards research.

tedivm 2y ago
I honestly believe that they closed things up not because of concerns about "safety and security" but because it was the most profitable thing to do. Other groups are publishing models that are just as good (maybe with a bit of lag compared to OpenAI), and OpenAI seems to have gutted their own safety teams. The fact that OpenAI removed their ban on military use of the models[1] seems to be a sign that security and safety aren't the highest concern. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/16/openai-quietly-removes-ban-on-military-use-of-its-ai-tools.html https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/16/openai-quietly-removes-ban-o...
- Y_Y 2y ago
  Job security and financial safety
  - 83 2y ago
    Any time I hear vague corporate statements like that I like to play a game of "what words did they leave unsaid"? >>Today this includes publishing most of our AI research, but we expect that safety [of our profits] and [job] security concerns will reduce our traditional publishing in the future
asadotzler 2y ago
The non-profit was created in 2015. So what if 5 years later when creating a taxable sub the hinted it was over for the non-profit. It's the same violation o trust whether done at once or in pieces over time.
mlsu 2y ago
Safety and security is not why they are not showing chain of thought here though. Profit is. They cite "Competitive Advantage" directly. He admit it! [1] "Safety and security." Probably the two most warped and abused words in the English language. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY2xBNWrBZ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY2xBNWrBZ4

by diggan 2y ago

tedivm 2y ago

I honestly believe that they closed things up not because of concerns about "safety and security" but because it was the most profitable thing to do. Other groups are publishing models that are just as good (maybe with a bit of lag compared to OpenAI), and OpenAI seems to have gutted their own safety teams. The fact that OpenAI removed their ban on military use of the models[1] seems to be a sign that security and safety aren't the highest concern. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/16/openai-quietly-removes-ban-on-military-use-of-its-ai-tools.html https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/16/openai-quietly-removes-ban-o...

Y_Y 2y ago
Job security and financial safety
- 83 2y ago
  Any time I hear vague corporate statements like that I like to play a game of "what words did they leave unsaid"? >>Today this includes publishing most of our AI research, but we expect that safety [of our profits] and [job] security concerns will reduce our traditional publishing in the future

asadotzler 2y ago

The non-profit was created in 2015. So what if 5 years later when creating a taxable sub the hinted it was over for the non-profit. It's the same violation o trust whether done at once or in pieces over time.

mlsu 2y ago

Safety and security is not why they are not showing chain of thought here though. Profit is. They cite "Competitive Advantage" directly. He admit it! [1] "Safety and security." Probably the two most warped and abused words in the English language. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY2xBNWrBZ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY2xBNWrBZ4