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Peertube is another one of those projects I've been using more and more over the last months. It's mostly a matter of being finding interesting content over tim

Peertube is another one of those projects I've been using more and more over the last months. It's mostly a matter of being finding interesting content over time. Like many of the other open-source/libre alternatives to big platforms, there are few lock-in (aka network) effects, and so platform usage increase tends to be sloooow (aka organic). Extremely unsexy for 10x unicorn VC investment I guess. But for a user who wants to see interesting stuff it's great! Before anyone interjects: yes, I'm aware that peertube won't work for all creators. NotJustBikes has been very clear that it would simply not be an option for them. Nebula (creator coop) seems to be the best compromise for them for now. Anyhow, nice list of new features, much appreciated! <3

pwdisswordfishz 2y ago
Nebula is (most likely) not a coop. https://medium.com/@cameron-paul/who-actually-owns-nebula-952a1c12d9c0 https://medium.com/@cameron-paul/who-actually-owns-nebula-95...
- black_puppydog 2y ago
  Interesting read. Although the "Update" section at the top finishes thus: > Ultimately the worst thing Nebula has done is provide some misleading marketing spin. They’re still an infinitely better deal for creators than YouTube.
- kimixa 2y ago
  I'm more interested in the financials and funding of the service - it's "easy" to provide a better service if you're losing money burning VC cash, but we know that'll never be sustainable. If they are better for the creators while also being at least cashflow-neutral, that's a much bigger deal IMHO than specifics on /who/ owns it.
shadowgovt 2y ago
Do you have a link to NotJustBikes' thoughts on the topic? I can think of a few reasons it wouldn't work for them but I'm curious what they hit.
- black_puppydog 2y ago
  Just a brief exchange here: https://social.notjustbikes.com/@notjustbikes/112776263545768125 https://social.notjustbikes.com/@notjustbikes/11277626354576... But from that little, I'd interpret (!!!) that a) It's much less of a hassle to use nebula, and b) economically and power-wise, they see nebula like a creators' union. It makes sense to me, I don't have grief with this. :)
bawolff 2y ago
> Like many of the other open-source/libre alternatives to big platforms, there are few lock-in (aka network) effects I feel like the biggest problem is that this solves problems that are different then the ones most people have with youtube. Like from what i understand from the creator side, the creators want a bigger piece of the ad revenue pie. Peertube isnt going to help with that.
beeflet 2y ago
>Like many of the other open-source/libre alternatives to big platforms, there are few lock-in (aka network) effects, and so platform usage increase tends to be sloooow (aka organic). Extremely unsexy for 10x unicorn VC investment I guess. But for a user who wants to see interesting stuff it's great! I think you are missing the point: there is pretty much no money to be made with peertube. It's just people using their own bandwidth and time to host and make videos they want to see. >NotJustBikes has been very clear that it would simply not be an option for them. Nebula (creator coop) seems to be the best compromise for them for now. Because there is no monetization angle to peertube aside from donations. But whatever, youtube was great before monetization so I figure there is no need for these kinds of filmmakers in the long run.
- black_puppydog 2y ago
  I think you misunderstood my comment. I'm very happy there's no investment angle in peertube, big fan of the "product" as it is. And I understand full well why it's not an option for NJB. For starters because they were very clear about it when they wrote about it on mastodon. :D
bluGill 2y ago
There are only a few creators so much better known that I will follow them. Most of the time I don't care who shows me that interesting content, so long as it is interesting good enough.

pwdisswordfishz 2y ago

Nebula is (most likely) not a coop. https://medium.com/@cameron-paul/who-actually-owns-nebula-952a1c12d9c0 https://medium.com/@cameron-paul/who-actually-owns-nebula-95...

black_puppydog 2y ago
Interesting read. Although the "Update" section at the top finishes thus: > Ultimately the worst thing Nebula has done is provide some misleading marketing spin. They’re still an infinitely better deal for creators than YouTube.
kimixa 2y ago
I'm more interested in the financials and funding of the service - it's "easy" to provide a better service if you're losing money burning VC cash, but we know that'll never be sustainable. If they are better for the creators while also being at least cashflow-neutral, that's a much bigger deal IMHO than specifics on /who/ owns it.

shadowgovt 2y ago

Do you have a link to NotJustBikes' thoughts on the topic? I can think of a few reasons it wouldn't work for them but I'm curious what they hit.

black_puppydog 2y ago
Just a brief exchange here: https://social.notjustbikes.com/@notjustbikes/112776263545768125 https://social.notjustbikes.com/@notjustbikes/11277626354576... But from that little, I'd interpret (!!!) that a) It's much less of a hassle to use nebula, and b) economically and power-wise, they see nebula like a creators' union. It makes sense to me, I don't have grief with this. :)

bawolff 2y ago

> Like many of the other open-source/libre alternatives to big platforms, there are few lock-in (aka network) effects I feel like the biggest problem is that this solves problems that are different then the ones most people have with youtube. Like from what i understand from the creator side, the creators want a bigger piece of the ad revenue pie. Peertube isnt going to help with that.

beeflet 2y ago

>Like many of the other open-source/libre alternatives to big platforms, there are few lock-in (aka network) effects, and so platform usage increase tends to be sloooow (aka organic). Extremely unsexy for 10x unicorn VC investment I guess. But for a user who wants to see interesting stuff it's great! I think you are missing the point: there is pretty much no money to be made with peertube. It's just people using their own bandwidth and time to host and make videos they want to see. >NotJustBikes has been very clear that it would simply not be an option for them. Nebula (creator coop) seems to be the best compromise for them for now. Because there is no monetization angle to peertube aside from donations. But whatever, youtube was great before monetization so I figure there is no need for these kinds of filmmakers in the long run.

black_puppydog 2y ago
I think you misunderstood my comment. I'm very happy there's no investment angle in peertube, big fan of the "product" as it is. And I understand full well why it's not an option for NJB. For starters because they were very clear about it when they wrote about it on mastodon. :D

bluGill 2y ago

There are only a few creators so much better known that I will follow them. Most of the time I don't care who shows me that interesting content, so long as it is interesting good enough.