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Imagine the paranoia that must be flooding Hezbollah right now. You can't function without your electronics...but you can't trust them at all now. You don't ev

by skc 2y ago

Imagine the paranoia that must be flooding Hezbollah right now. You can't function without your electronics...but you can't trust them at all now. You don't even know how many or which of your gadgets have been compromised to spy on you and for how long. Massive, massive L.

0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago
The actual body count could be zero and it would still be devastating. I could even believe the supply chain infiltration was fake and radios were manually replaced day of the attack with a crude timer. Anything to give the appearance of omnipotence.
kklisura 2y ago
On the other hand: isn't risk to this enormous? What if they just abandon all electronics and conduct their _business_ "off grid"? Good luck tracking that down...
- cooper_ganglia 2y ago
  Unfortunately for them, pigeons fly slower than radio waves.
- robertlagrant 2y ago
  If that were better or as good, they'd already be doing it. It's pretty obvious that would massively disrupt them.
- doodlebugging 2y ago
  I'm probably wrong but I think I remember that part of the reason the Oct 7 attacks worked so well was due to Hamas' avoiding known signals intelligence gathering operations by using hand-carried notes and keeping it all low-tech. They planned and trained in the open but never let it slip on commonly monitored media that they were about to do anything. That was Hamas, not Hezbollah so maybe the latter didn't learn the lesson and left themselves open to this type of attack or retribution, depending on your individual perspective. This may push things back to pencil and paper and sneaker-nets. It'll probably be a brief adaptation though since the temptation of technology is very real.
newspaper1 2y ago
Massive, massive L for Israel. No one in their right mind is going to use Israeli tech or products going forward. They just devastated their own economy.
- Eliezer 2y ago
  These weren't Israeli products. If I were Mossad, I'd compromise anything except an Israeli or Jewish-owned product.
  - anigbrowl 2y ago
    That's beside the point, though. Imagine you are in some non-aligned/involved country with no real stake in MENA politics, idk Thailand or Peru. Corporate/national security is your job. Absent some specific need that can't be supplied by anyone else, would you want to do business with them?
- atemerev 2y ago
  Depends on which side you are on.
  - mardifoufs 2y ago
    I mean regardless of which side you're on, you still wouldn't want to end up with a product that has a bomb in it by accident, even if it wasn't targeted against you.
    - atemerev 2y ago
      [flagged]
      - I-M-S 2y ago
        Are you a citizen of Lebanon?
      - mardifoufs 2y ago
pvaldes 2y ago
replace all the batteries right now? remove it from every one of your devices and wait some hours to see if other devices explode?

by skc 2y ago

0cf8612b2e1e 2y ago

The actual body count could be zero and it would still be devastating. I could even believe the supply chain infiltration was fake and radios were manually replaced day of the attack with a crude timer. Anything to give the appearance of omnipotence.

kklisura 2y ago

On the other hand: isn't risk to this enormous? What if they just abandon all electronics and conduct their _business_ "off grid"? Good luck tracking that down...

cooper_ganglia 2y ago
Unfortunately for them, pigeons fly slower than radio waves.
robertlagrant 2y ago
If that were better or as good, they'd already be doing it. It's pretty obvious that would massively disrupt them.
doodlebugging 2y ago
I'm probably wrong but I think I remember that part of the reason the Oct 7 attacks worked so well was due to Hamas' avoiding known signals intelligence gathering operations by using hand-carried notes and keeping it all low-tech. They planned and trained in the open but never let it slip on commonly monitored media that they were about to do anything. That was Hamas, not Hezbollah so maybe the latter didn't learn the lesson and left themselves open to this type of attack or retribution, depending on your individual perspective. This may push things back to pencil and paper and sneaker-nets. It'll probably be a brief adaptation though since the temptation of technology is very real.

newspaper1 2y ago

Massive, massive L for Israel. No one in their right mind is going to use Israeli tech or products going forward. They just devastated their own economy.

Eliezer 2y ago
These weren't Israeli products. If I were Mossad, I'd compromise anything except an Israeli or Jewish-owned product.
- anigbrowl 2y ago
  That's beside the point, though. Imagine you are in some non-aligned/involved country with no real stake in MENA politics, idk Thailand or Peru. Corporate/national security is your job. Absent some specific need that can't be supplied by anyone else, would you want to do business with them?
atemerev 2y ago
Depends on which side you are on.
- mardifoufs 2y ago
  I mean regardless of which side you're on, you still wouldn't want to end up with a product that has a bomb in it by accident, even if it wasn't targeted against you.
  - atemerev 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - I-M-S 2y ago
      Are you a citizen of Lebanon?
    - mardifoufs 2y ago

pvaldes 2y ago

replace all the batteries right now? remove it from every one of your devices and wait some hours to see if other devices explode?