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If the mossad was able to plant explosives without being caught, I wouldn't be surprised if they also planted bugs (indiscriminately) in many electronic devices
by janmo 2y ago
If the mossad was able to plant explosives without being caught, I wouldn't be surprised if they also planted bugs (indiscriminately) in many electronic devices delivered to Lebanon such as TVs, computers, phones etc...
Similar to the spy chips implants within the Supermicro server motherboards.
- CamperBob2 2y agoThe Supermicro story was never proven to be anything but bullshit, though. The more you looked into it, the less it added up.
- janmo 2y agoTrue, probably the NSA wanted to smear the Chinese when in fact they are the ones implanting bugs in hardware.
- afthonos 2y agoMaybe the Chinese wanted to smear the NSA by making it look like the NSA was trying to smear the Chinese when the NSA in fact were the ones implanting bugs in the hardware...
- 0cf8612b2e1e 2y agoGiven the embarrassingly bad security practices of hardware vendors (see recent secure boot key leak) do the spy agencies require deliberate backdoors anymore? I have lost count of the number of times Cisco has shipped a hardcoded admin password.
- Maken 2y agoMaybe everyone was implanting bugs and blamed the other party for being too sloppy and getting caught.
- glimshe 2y agoYou are joking, but that's probably the truth... Or at least that's what the NSA wants us to think!
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- MPSimmons 2y agoYes, the supply chain is very clearly compromised. How much of it is an excellent question. It's remarkable that apparently (?) none of the devices went off prematurely and tipped off the targets. That implies a higher degree of QA than you'd expect from a more ramshackle organization.
- janmo 2y agoI guess from now on they will fly it in directly from China.
- tempaccount420 2y agoHow much money would it take to compromise a Chinese factory? Probably not a lot.
- newspaper1 2y agoI wouldn't be surprised if this went well beyond Lebanon. It's time to start really scrutinizing our tech supply chain. I won't use any Israeli tech going forward.
- lm28469 2y agoThese things weren't made in Israel nor by Israeli companies. If a state wants you dead you're cooked anyways
- viridian 2y agoGlib defeatism and the automatic surrender to any entity more powerful than you is sad, pitiable even. The main way states exercise power is by making large enough shows of force that people behave exactly as you do, and roll over in submission. State powers may be able to silence, extort, or kill anyone, but they damn sure can't get everyone.
- pvaldes 2y ago>These things weren't made in Israel nor by Israeli companies. Somebody must had put the bombs on these things
- Eliezer 2y agoThey didn't compromise anything that looked Israeli, and targeted other companies.
- ang_cire 2y agoYou assume. They've cracked down hard on anti-war protesters inside Israel. It's absolutely not a safe, nor even likely true, assumption that Mossad does not also surveil Israelis.
- zild3d 2y ago> They've cracked down hard on anti-war protesters inside Israel huh? There's been weekly protests for almost a year now and last week's was the largest yet with around half a million attending https://www.timesofisrael.com/organizers-claim-largest-ever-rally-in-tel-aviv-as-calls-for-hostage-deal-intensify/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/organizers-claim-largest-ever-...
- runarberg 2y agoNot just Lebanon. We should all be afraid, and assume any consumer device or software that has transited through Israel or countries hosting agents from Israel, to be compromised and potentially dangerous.
- mig39 2y agoSupermicro never happened. Zero evidence. The reporters and the paper (Bloomberg?) have never retracted it, which is a reflection of their crappy reporting. https://daringfireball.net/linked/2021/02/12/bloomberg-big-con https://daringfireball.net/linked/2021/02/12/bloomberg-big-c...
- perryizgr8 2y agoUntil a few hours ago there was "zero evidence" that thousands of pagers and walkie talkies had been tampered to explode via a remote command.
- mig39 2y agoWas Bloomberg reporting that "thousands of pagers and walkie talkies had been tampered to explode via a remote command" for a decade? Without any evidence? If Bloomberg had evidence of chips being tampered with, they could have produced that evidence.
- almostgotcaught 2y agoThat's not how any of this works. If you investigate extensively and fail to find evidence, then there's probably no evidence. If you weren't looking for any evidence and didn't find any, that does not mean there's no evidence.