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> You can trash it all and make your own if you want to. It is important to note, that if you want to do it, you have to roll up your sleeves and do it. Not to

> You can trash it all and make your own if you want to. It is important to note, that if you want to do it, you have to roll up your sleeves and do it. Not to expect free manpower of others to provide it to you. Or in another words: http://islinuxaboutchoice.com/ http://islinuxaboutchoice.com/

matheusmoreira 2y ago
Absolutely. The biggest reason systemd is taking over is companies like Red Hat keep paying people to work on it. As time passes, systemd gets better, gets more features, makes the life of distribution maintainers easier and therefore gets adopted, and makes the lives of users easier too, mine included. I'm making my own freestanding Linux thingy but I'm not under any illusions that it's going to replace systemd or any other software any time soon. I'm just one guy doing it in his free time because he enjoys it. I really hate it when I see people complaining about systemd. The people behind systemd had a vision, they reimagined Linux user space and put the necessary work into making their vision a reality. They're an inspiration for me. Not only that, they took their work and they released it as GPL licensed free software. One would think the users would be more thankful. One would think people would not have moral objections to free software getting released to the world. Some technical criticism is certainly warranted but the sheer hatred that people display towards it and its developers certainly is not. I agree that "Linux is about choice" is often misinterpreted. It's about my choice as a programmer and software developer to redefine the entire system downstream of the kernel however I want. Users are encouraged to themselves become technical and educated so that they too can enjoy this power. However, we're not about to drop everything and start maintaining some legacy system because people who aren't paying us keep insisting that it's how things gotta be done. We're programmers, we like it when things are made in our image.
- hollerith 2y ago
  >the sheer hatred that people display towards it and its developers certainly is not [warranted]. Especially when many of the complaints can be summarized as, "I can no longer use my years of experience and knowledge about the old init system." (The people who complain that systemd unnecessarily enlarges an install's attack surface I have more sympathy for.)

matheusmoreira 2y ago

Absolutely. The biggest reason systemd is taking over is companies like Red Hat keep paying people to work on it. As time passes, systemd gets better, gets more features, makes the life of distribution maintainers easier and therefore gets adopted, and makes the lives of users easier too, mine included. I'm making my own freestanding Linux thingy but I'm not under any illusions that it's going to replace systemd or any other software any time soon. I'm just one guy doing it in his free time because he enjoys it. I really hate it when I see people complaining about systemd. The people behind systemd had a vision, they reimagined Linux user space and put the necessary work into making their vision a reality. They're an inspiration for me. Not only that, they took their work and they released it as GPL licensed free software. One would think the users would be more thankful. One would think people would not have moral objections to free software getting released to the world. Some technical criticism is certainly warranted but the sheer hatred that people display towards it and its developers certainly is not. I agree that "Linux is about choice" is often misinterpreted. It's about my choice as a programmer and software developer to redefine the entire system downstream of the kernel however I want. Users are encouraged to themselves become technical and educated so that they too can enjoy this power. However, we're not about to drop everything and start maintaining some legacy system because people who aren't paying us keep insisting that it's how things gotta be done. We're programmers, we like it when things are made in our image.

hollerith 2y ago
>the sheer hatred that people display towards it and its developers certainly is not [warranted]. Especially when many of the complaints can be summarized as, "I can no longer use my years of experience and knowledge about the old init system." (The people who complain that systemd unnecessarily enlarges an install's attack surface I have more sympathy for.)