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The reality is Dave Plummer was called out again after incorrectly claiming Start Menu drew text sideways, that he built the entire menu, etc and was forced to

The reality is Dave Plummer was called out again after incorrectly claiming Start Menu drew text sideways, that he built the entire menu, etc and was forced to backpedal when presented with evidence to the contrary. (He even revised the YouTube video title from I Built Start[...] to I Worked On Start [..., 1].) Once a scammer, always a scammer, it seems. [1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fr4Q6CF0E_8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fr4Q6CF0E_8

column 2y ago
haters gonna hate...
robertlagrant 2y ago
He addresses this in the pinned comment: > UPDATE: This only shipped in the NTSUR release, as far as I can now tell. I've confirmed with team members that I'm not crazy, I did write and we did ship the code I describe in this episode, but it was ultimately replaced circa NT4 with bitmaps! I don't know what's true, but it seems odd to not mention that.
- withinrafael 2y ago
  Not sure what release he's referring to (NTSUR isn't the name of a release). But I find it interesting he decides to only do his homework after the video/discussion.
  - kenny11 2y ago
    I think that's referring to the NT "Shell Update Release" which was an early beta of the Windows 95-style start menu that you could install on Windows NT 3.51.
h4ck_th3_pl4n3t 2y ago
You do realize that in corporations such as Microsoft, multiple people work on the same code, and code gets rewritten all the time, right? Dave Plummer cannot know about any changes after he left the company. You seem to be not aware of that. Also I don't know about you, but I don't know shit about the code I wrote two weeks ago. How do you expect someone to remember all details about code he wrote more than 25 years ago?
- lloydatkinson 2y ago
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- withinrafael 2y ago
  Am very aware how Microsoft works, been involved with them my entire life, wrote a few books, etc! I agree with you though. That's why I don't record YouTube videos asserting what happened 25 years ago.
  - h4ck_th3_pl4n3t 2y ago
    Yet you still decided to accuse somebody of malicious intent and of being a scammer. That's not how a wise person should act online. (that you seem to imply to be by using your published books as an argument, as if that would validate any accusatory statements)
    - gertop 2y ago
      > Yet you still decided to accuse somebody of malicious intent and of being a scammer. https://youtube.com/watch?v=1GeF9AjlqP8 https://youtube.com/watch?v=1GeF9AjlqP8 He is a scammer and was convicted for it.
      - mixmastamyk 2y ago
        Have any non-youtube links?
        gertop 2y ago
        https://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-releases/attorney-general-s-office-sues-settles-washington-based-softwareonlinecom https://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-releases/attorney-general-s...
      - h4ck_th3_pl4n3t 2y ago
        > He is a scammer and was convicted for it. A settlement is not a conviction.
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column 2y ago

haters gonna hate...

robertlagrant 2y ago

He addresses this in the pinned comment: > UPDATE: This only shipped in the NTSUR release, as far as I can now tell. I've confirmed with team members that I'm not crazy, I did write and we did ship the code I describe in this episode, but it was ultimately replaced circa NT4 with bitmaps! I don't know what's true, but it seems odd to not mention that.

withinrafael 2y ago
Not sure what release he's referring to (NTSUR isn't the name of a release). But I find it interesting he decides to only do his homework after the video/discussion.
- kenny11 2y ago
  I think that's referring to the NT "Shell Update Release" which was an early beta of the Windows 95-style start menu that you could install on Windows NT 3.51.

h4ck_th3_pl4n3t 2y ago

You do realize that in corporations such as Microsoft, multiple people work on the same code, and code gets rewritten all the time, right? Dave Plummer cannot know about any changes after he left the company. You seem to be not aware of that. Also I don't know about you, but I don't know shit about the code I wrote two weeks ago. How do you expect someone to remember all details about code he wrote more than 25 years ago?

lloydatkinson 2y ago
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withinrafael 2y ago
Am very aware how Microsoft works, been involved with them my entire life, wrote a few books, etc! I agree with you though. That's why I don't record YouTube videos asserting what happened 25 years ago.
- h4ck_th3_pl4n3t 2y ago
  Yet you still decided to accuse somebody of malicious intent and of being a scammer. That's not how a wise person should act online. (that you seem to imply to be by using your published books as an argument, as if that would validate any accusatory statements)
  - gertop 2y ago
    > Yet you still decided to accuse somebody of malicious intent and of being a scammer. https://youtube.com/watch?v=1GeF9AjlqP8 https://youtube.com/watch?v=1GeF9AjlqP8 He is a scammer and was convicted for it.
    - mixmastamyk 2y ago
      Have any non-youtube links?
      - gertop 2y ago
        https://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-releases/attorney-general-s-office-sues-settles-washington-based-softwareonlinecom https://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-releases/attorney-general-s...
    - h4ck_th3_pl4n3t 2y ago
      > He is a scammer and was convicted for it. A settlement is not a conviction.

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