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A strategic triumph for both the current and previous administrations. Both Trump and Biden handled the situation adroitly. These may not be the absolute bleedi

by tomcam 2y ago

A strategic triumph for both the current and previous administrations. Both Trump and Biden handled the situation adroitly. These may not be the absolute bleeding edge tech but it’s a proof of concept that we can wean ourselves from Chinese tech if it becomes necessary. It comes at the cost of many, many Chinese jobs in the midst of a devastating economic downturn there. They are victims of repeated local and geopolitical malpractice by the current emperor. EDIT: User lotsofpulp pointed out that we don’t make any strategic chips in China. That is of course true. I meant that the game of economic chess played by the current and previous administrations has been highly effective in reducing China’s options.

lotsofpulp 2y ago
>It comes at the cost of many, many Chinese jobs in the midst of a devastating economic downturn there As far as I know, TSMC does not make chips in China.
- tomcam 2y ago
  They don’t. I was unclear. What I meant to say was that our tightening of sanctions against China has harmed their economy greatly. It is an act of economic war against their acts of economic war.
- chuckadams 2y ago
  TSMC Fab 10 is in Shanghai. Probably not cutting-edge stuff coming out of there though.
lamontcg 2y ago
> Both Trump and Biden handled the situation adroitly. Trump started trade wars by raising tariffs. Biden passed the CHIPS act, the infrastructure bill, and the build back better act.
- tomcam 2y ago
  Biden continued Trump tariffs and raised many of them, appropriately. https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-biden-tariffs/ https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs...
laidoffamazon 2y ago
> Both Trump and Biden handled the situation adroitly. I don't remember any news like this during the Trump administration. I do remember the Foxconn plant that didn't open though!
- tomcam 2y ago
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  - laidoffamazon 2y ago
    Last time I checked this was a News site
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago
  That's because a lot of news was dominated by him tweeting about his daily ablutions or something. I'm not convinced how much Trump himself was involved in all that to be honest.

by tomcam 2y ago

lotsofpulp 2y ago

>It comes at the cost of many, many Chinese jobs in the midst of a devastating economic downturn there As far as I know, TSMC does not make chips in China.

tomcam 2y ago
They don’t. I was unclear. What I meant to say was that our tightening of sanctions against China has harmed their economy greatly. It is an act of economic war against their acts of economic war.
chuckadams 2y ago
TSMC Fab 10 is in Shanghai. Probably not cutting-edge stuff coming out of there though.

lamontcg 2y ago

> Both Trump and Biden handled the situation adroitly. Trump started trade wars by raising tariffs. Biden passed the CHIPS act, the infrastructure bill, and the build back better act.

tomcam 2y ago
Biden continued Trump tariffs and raised many of them, appropriately. https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-biden-tariffs/ https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs...

laidoffamazon 2y ago

> Both Trump and Biden handled the situation adroitly. I don't remember any news like this during the Trump administration. I do remember the Foxconn plant that didn't open though!

tomcam 2y ago
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- laidoffamazon 2y ago
  Last time I checked this was a News site
Cthulhu_ 2y ago
That's because a lot of news was dominated by him tweeting about his daily ablutions or something. I'm not convinced how much Trump himself was involved in all that to be honest.