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Ideally it should cover TC-ST’s emotions as expressed in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41548104 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41548104 (Mulling/

Ideally it should cover TC-ST’s emotions as expressed in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41548104 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41548104 (Mulling/marvelling ATM how wikipedia talkpages, mastodon, o1, or HN are all inadequate for the kind of conversations we all hope for, something about the tension between sublimating koinonia & prowess-seeking) EDIT Getting a bit selfreferential here too https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41567018 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41567018 EDIT 2: “barely bottled in-game insanity” could work

082349872349872 2y ago
on mulling/marveling: a) FPD read the Glass Bead Game, and instead of fixating on the game itself as I have done, noticed how the conversations tended toward an ideal (also, IIRC, recommended in the NE): https://franklin.dyer.me/post/123 https://franklin.dyer.me/post/123 b) etymologically, companions eat bread together, and symposia involve drinking. Maybe a problem with digital fora is that although we may have moved on from grooming and nitpicking, we still require at least a minial amount of analogue ingestion and imbibing for conviviality? (in the dating context, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=910852 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=910852 ) EDIT: Re: "barely bottled in-game insanity", either someone needs to tell Stross that Series Landys don't have ignition buttons, or I need to accept the foreshadowing and realise that detail was an early in-story clue of power of eldritch horrors* to transmute and pervert even the most solid basis of innate rural goodness. * in the world of the Laundry; in our world it was Tata who added the buttons
- gradschoolfail 2y ago
  Tata the ferrous conglomerate? Do you have a cite
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/overview#:~:text=subsidiary%20of,since%202008 https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/overview#:~:text=subsidiary%...
    - gradschoolfail 2y ago
      Aah, I thought you were hinting at malfeasance by TM. Lumpers girl, is hardly mentioned by Farina without dubbies also indicated; secretarial skills hinted at at least once.
      - 082349872349872 2y ago
        Malfeasance? TM evidently believes that in this century a Landy is fated to be a Chelsea tractor; from YT videos (which only show inanimate gear, not sheep or goats or anything practical) it appears they expect that one ought to rinse whatever one is transporting off before stowing it in the boot — completely backwards. There is a very boomer joke, probably at least fifty years old by now, which involves a (male, of course) boss who interviews 3 (female, of course) secretarial candidates, and maybe there's some WPM involved, but he also gives them each a pile of cash as part of the interview. One goes to the track, one invests in the overnight market, etc. So which one does he hire? The one with the most wood in front of the hut. Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSBb8ESt96g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSBb8ESt96g
        gradschoolfail 2y ago
        Btw, i wasnt suggesting that you pair HN with EtOH like tptacek does — loading up on a few yt rhymes should achieve the same effect for you? Conviviality without killing any brain cells.. Blonde is americain? The tattooed guy, alpine accent?
        tptacek 2y ago
        Hey. I paired a block party with HN. I do not generally pair HN and drinking!
        082349872349872 2y ago
        If Herodotus is to be believed, ancient persians might've read their HN replies twice, either sober then drunk, or drunk then sober, before hitting the "reply" button. https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0126%3Abook%3D1%3Achapter%3D133 https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext...

082349872349872 2y ago

on mulling/marveling: a) FPD read the Glass Bead Game, and instead of fixating on the game itself as I have done, noticed how the conversations tended toward an ideal (also, IIRC, recommended in the NE): https://franklin.dyer.me/post/123 https://franklin.dyer.me/post/123 b) etymologically, companions eat bread together, and symposia involve drinking. Maybe a problem with digital fora is that although we may have moved on from grooming and nitpicking, we still require at least a minial amount of analogue ingestion and imbibing for conviviality? (in the dating context, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=910852 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=910852 ) EDIT: Re: "barely bottled in-game insanity", either someone needs to tell Stross that Series Landys don't have ignition buttons, or I need to accept the foreshadowing and realise that detail was an early in-story clue of power of eldritch horrors* to transmute and pervert even the most solid basis of innate rural goodness. * in the world of the Laundry; in our world it was Tata who added the buttons

gradschoolfail 2y ago
Tata the ferrous conglomerate? Do you have a cite
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/overview#:~:text=subsidiary%20of,since%202008 https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/overview#:~:text=subsidiary%...
  - gradschoolfail 2y ago
    Aah, I thought you were hinting at malfeasance by TM. Lumpers girl, is hardly mentioned by Farina without dubbies also indicated; secretarial skills hinted at at least once.
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      Malfeasance? TM evidently believes that in this century a Landy is fated to be a Chelsea tractor; from YT videos (which only show inanimate gear, not sheep or goats or anything practical) it appears they expect that one ought to rinse whatever one is transporting off before stowing it in the boot — completely backwards. There is a very boomer joke, probably at least fifty years old by now, which involves a (male, of course) boss who interviews 3 (female, of course) secretarial candidates, and maybe there's some WPM involved, but he also gives them each a pile of cash as part of the interview. One goes to the track, one invests in the overnight market, etc. So which one does he hire? The one with the most wood in front of the hut. Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSBb8ESt96g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSBb8ESt96g
      - gradschoolfail 2y ago
        Btw, i wasnt suggesting that you pair HN with EtOH like tptacek does — loading up on a few yt rhymes should achieve the same effect for you? Conviviality without killing any brain cells.. Blonde is americain? The tattooed guy, alpine accent?
        tptacek 2y ago
        Hey. I paired a block party with HN. I do not generally pair HN and drinking!
        082349872349872 2y ago
        If Herodotus is to be believed, ancient persians might've read their HN replies twice, either sober then drunk, or drunk then sober, before hitting the "reply" button. https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0126%3Abook%3D1%3Achapter%3D133 https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext...