> plus all the second order effects like kids being medicated/treated that wouldn't necessarily need or want it This is the problem I have with ASD voices. I'

> plus all the second order effects like kids being medicated/treated that wouldn't necessarily need or want it This is the problem I have with ASD voices. I'll give you a simple example of a treatment my kid does not want. We do occupational therapy and part of it is building up a tolerance to brushing their teeth. Do you think we should stop this therapy because the kid doesn't want it or it's recommended by Autism Speaks? ASD voice are valuable, but they are often far to binary in their recommendations and crusades. It's not an all or nothing thing and frankly the individual matters a lot more than these activists ever seem to want to acknowledge.