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> Teens will get notifications telling them to leave the app after 60 minutes each day. It is insane that someone thinks that an impressionable child/young adu

> Teens will get notifications telling them to leave the app after 60 minutes each day. It is insane that someone thinks that an impressionable child/young adult wasting ~ 1/16 of their waking time every day on this drivel is OK! But, I guess profit motive gotta win over sanity. I could justify "5 minutes", maybe "10 minutes". But I am not the one making money from selling their attention and selling them pointless shit. In my household the policy is and remains: kids can have instagram/facebook/tiktok/$latestMindRottingShit when they buy their own phone and their own cell plan.

kayodelycaon 2y ago
Most people spend that much time watching YouTube or TV everyday, if not more.
- dns_snek 2y ago
  Depending on the type of content one consumes, those activities are a net positive, or at least neutral. Meanwhile social media is a net negative for nearly everyone except "influencers" who get paid to shill for products and services.
moab_desert1 2y ago
As an adult I agree on principle, but how old are your kids? The social pressure to be present in these things must be tough to deal with as a teenager. Can they still access it on a computer?
- dmitrygr 2y ago
  I was an uncool outcast in school. Now, the "cool kids" from my high school bag my groceries when I go shopping. Social pressure is what got them to where they are. Not succumbing to it is what got me to where I am. I am OK with my kids hating me for now. They'll thank me when they can afford things they want while the former "cool kids" waste their lives bagging cabbage.
  - JohnMakin 2y ago
    Do you think popular people in highschool don’t become successful? Because I assure you this is a faulty assumption.
  - ziddoap 2y ago
    I was an uncool outcast in school. It has affected me negatively to this day, 20+ years later. At least a handful of the "cool kids" from my school are wildly successful millionaires.
  - dns_snek 2y ago
    I urge you to take your kids' complaints seriously, your comment reads quite dismissive with some strange generalizations of how "cool kids" and "outcasts" will do later in life. Pressure can turn some people into diamonds (you, apparently), but it can also crush them psychologically.
apsurd 2y ago
Very surprised that you or anyone thinks 60 minutes each day is "a long time!" I agree that anything past 15 minutes undeniably unhealthy. But large masses of people are very commonly online for hours upon hours. And all along and alongside there's TV. So this 60 minutes seems very out of touch.
- dmitrygr 2y ago
  > But large masses of people And I would consider myself a failure as a parent if my kid aspired to such a low standard as "like large masses of people"
  - apsurd 2y ago
    I'm speaking toward empathy perhaps. I agree that values shouldn't be relative to some lowest common denominator. > It is insane that someone thinks… This is overly critical. Social media is an addiction. We're an a new epidemic and we have to assess how to respond. We should be discussing treatments in a similar vein of drug rehabilitation. So I think shooting for your kids to only get 15 minutes is the right value, but very tricky and risky in how one gets there.
    - Eumenes 2y ago
      > We should be discussing treatments in a similar vein of drug rehabilitation. Have you been through a drug addiction? I have. I wouldn't compare having an account on a social media platform to being addicted to hardcore drugs. It doesn't make you sound very smart.
      - apsurd 2y ago
        Online account is not the same as being addicted to hardcore drugs. You made that up just now. Social media is addictive, like a drug addiction. And there's a spectrum to it.
- TZubiri 2y ago
  "Daddy can be online 10 hours a day but it's ok because he is being paid money." Gee I wonder how that can go wrong.
Eumenes 2y ago
> In my household the policy is and remains: kids can have instagram/facebook/tiktok/$latestMindRottingShit when they buy their own phone and their own cell plan. Based

kayodelycaon 2y ago

Most people spend that much time watching YouTube or TV everyday, if not more.

dns_snek 2y ago
Depending on the type of content one consumes, those activities are a net positive, or at least neutral. Meanwhile social media is a net negative for nearly everyone except "influencers" who get paid to shill for products and services.

moab_desert1 2y ago

As an adult I agree on principle, but how old are your kids? The social pressure to be present in these things must be tough to deal with as a teenager. Can they still access it on a computer?

dmitrygr 2y ago
I was an uncool outcast in school. Now, the "cool kids" from my high school bag my groceries when I go shopping. Social pressure is what got them to where they are. Not succumbing to it is what got me to where I am. I am OK with my kids hating me for now. They'll thank me when they can afford things they want while the former "cool kids" waste their lives bagging cabbage.
- JohnMakin 2y ago
  Do you think popular people in highschool don’t become successful? Because I assure you this is a faulty assumption.
- ziddoap 2y ago
  I was an uncool outcast in school. It has affected me negatively to this day, 20+ years later. At least a handful of the "cool kids" from my school are wildly successful millionaires.
- dns_snek 2y ago
  I urge you to take your kids' complaints seriously, your comment reads quite dismissive with some strange generalizations of how "cool kids" and "outcasts" will do later in life. Pressure can turn some people into diamonds (you, apparently), but it can also crush them psychologically.

apsurd 2y ago

Very surprised that you or anyone thinks 60 minutes each day is "a long time!" I agree that anything past 15 minutes undeniably unhealthy. But large masses of people are very commonly online for hours upon hours. And all along and alongside there's TV. So this 60 minutes seems very out of touch.

dmitrygr 2y ago
> But large masses of people And I would consider myself a failure as a parent if my kid aspired to such a low standard as "like large masses of people"
- apsurd 2y ago
  I'm speaking toward empathy perhaps. I agree that values shouldn't be relative to some lowest common denominator. > It is insane that someone thinks… This is overly critical. Social media is an addiction. We're an a new epidemic and we have to assess how to respond. We should be discussing treatments in a similar vein of drug rehabilitation. So I think shooting for your kids to only get 15 minutes is the right value, but very tricky and risky in how one gets there.
  - Eumenes 2y ago
    > We should be discussing treatments in a similar vein of drug rehabilitation. Have you been through a drug addiction? I have. I wouldn't compare having an account on a social media platform to being addicted to hardcore drugs. It doesn't make you sound very smart.
    - apsurd 2y ago
      Online account is not the same as being addicted to hardcore drugs. You made that up just now. Social media is addictive, like a drug addiction. And there's a spectrum to it.
TZubiri 2y ago
"Daddy can be online 10 hours a day but it's ok because he is being paid money." Gee I wonder how that can go wrong.

Eumenes 2y ago

> In my household the policy is and remains: kids can have instagram/facebook/tiktok/$latestMindRottingShit when they buy their own phone and their own cell plan. Based