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> I expect downvotes for this. But that’s super lame. Would rather people engage thoughtfully. Alas. You'll never hear some of these downvoters say it out lot

> I expect downvotes for this. But that’s super lame. Would rather people engage thoughtfully. Alas. You'll never hear some of these downvoters say it out lot but a lot of people made some really poorly thought out real estate transactions during the pandemic assuming that their WFH gravy train would keep going forever. I know many people who up and sold their house and moved way out into the sticks thinking "this is the new normal". Not sure what these people were thinking, but then again there wasn't a whole lot of thinking going on anywhere during that time. It's kind of hard to feel sorry for these folks either. They were incredibly privileged that a "once in a lifetime global pandemic" granted them such ability. If the government declared all their cushy tech jobs "non essential" (which most tech companies are) and forced them all into unemployment like the average working person, I'm pretty sure their entire take on the last 4 years would be entirely different.

fnfjfk 2y ago
Does that apply in this case? Amazon is moving from 3 days to 5 days in Seattle. If you moved to Montana, that was already a problem.
consteval 2y ago
I think this comment really highlights the costs and culture around RTO. You're essentially admitting that going RTO can easily be the equivalent of a 50%+ reduction in Salary. I've found that typically RTO proponents are not very honest about the true cost of their position. Not the cost of driving, the cost of lost time, and especially not the cost of high COL areas that offices are typically in. I think some of this dishonesty stems from self-preservation. As in if they admit the cost, they have to admit they're getting shorted, and nobody wants that for themselves. If moving "to the sticks" was such a viable cost saving strategy, it seems to me you're burning Salary for the sweet, sweet opportunity to join a Teams call in the office. If anything, these types of comments illuminate the potential hard benefits of a WFH job.

fnfjfk 2y ago

Does that apply in this case? Amazon is moving from 3 days to 5 days in Seattle. If you moved to Montana, that was already a problem.

consteval 2y ago

I think this comment really highlights the costs and culture around RTO. You're essentially admitting that going RTO can easily be the equivalent of a 50%+ reduction in Salary. I've found that typically RTO proponents are not very honest about the true cost of their position. Not the cost of driving, the cost of lost time, and especially not the cost of high COL areas that offices are typically in. I think some of this dishonesty stems from self-preservation. As in if they admit the cost, they have to admit they're getting shorted, and nobody wants that for themselves. If moving "to the sticks" was such a viable cost saving strategy, it seems to me you're burning Salary for the sweet, sweet opportunity to join a Teams call in the office. If anything, these types of comments illuminate the potential hard benefits of a WFH job.