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I think the answer is fairly straightforward if you limit it to the current round in the conflict Not to mention that Israel is no longer in Lebanon and Hezbol

I think the answer is fairly straightforward if you limit it to the current round in the conflict Not to mention that Israel is no longer in Lebanon and Hezbollah can just stop firing rockets and the situation will go back to relative peace. So sure the history is complicated, but current events are fairly straightfoward, you had relatively peaceful status que until Hezbollah broke it.

nick_ 2y ago
I mean... yes... if you limit any context by excluding important elements of the context the takeaways will be different.
- mupuff1234 2y ago
  So given the context, why is Hezbollah not responsible for the current escalation? Hezbollah was founded to drive Israel out of Lebanon, and Israel is no longer in Lebanon, so not sure how that context makes any difference to who started and is to blame for the current round of escalation.
  - nick_ 2y ago
    You are implying that the context that matters is equal to the context where Israel hasn't done anything wrong. If you don't know you're doing that, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you're used to entertaining a much less observant audience on this topic.
    - mupuff1234 2y ago
      It's pretty simple - tell me why you think it's justified for Lebanon to attack Israel? You're dancing around the "context" but not actually saying why that context makes it legitimate for Lebanon to attack based on the pre Oct 7th status quo. Sure Lebanon and Israel have some territorial dispute, but it's like 20 sq km, not something you should start a war for. Lots of neighboring countries have a bloody history, that doesn't mean starting a new war is legitimate, right? Can Poland start firing rockets at Germany because Germany invaded them in the past?
      - nick_ 2y ago
        No thanks. You're obviously brainwashed by particular narratives, and have only absorbed one perspective of the facts that you were already emotionally dependent on. Not at all unusual on this topic.
        mupuff1234 2y ago
        I'm very open to hear different narratives, but seems like you aren't exactly willing to hear or share, so not even sure why you commented from the get go. This is a discussion board, and in more than happy to discuss the topic, there's no need for personal attacks.
anigbrowl 2y ago
Texas sharpshooter fallacy

nick_ 2y ago

I mean... yes... if you limit any context by excluding important elements of the context the takeaways will be different.

mupuff1234 2y ago
So given the context, why is Hezbollah not responsible for the current escalation? Hezbollah was founded to drive Israel out of Lebanon, and Israel is no longer in Lebanon, so not sure how that context makes any difference to who started and is to blame for the current round of escalation.
- nick_ 2y ago
  You are implying that the context that matters is equal to the context where Israel hasn't done anything wrong. If you don't know you're doing that, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you're used to entertaining a much less observant audience on this topic.
  - mupuff1234 2y ago
    It's pretty simple - tell me why you think it's justified for Lebanon to attack Israel? You're dancing around the "context" but not actually saying why that context makes it legitimate for Lebanon to attack based on the pre Oct 7th status quo. Sure Lebanon and Israel have some territorial dispute, but it's like 20 sq km, not something you should start a war for. Lots of neighboring countries have a bloody history, that doesn't mean starting a new war is legitimate, right? Can Poland start firing rockets at Germany because Germany invaded them in the past?
    - nick_ 2y ago
      No thanks. You're obviously brainwashed by particular narratives, and have only absorbed one perspective of the facts that you were already emotionally dependent on. Not at all unusual on this topic.
      - mupuff1234 2y ago
        I'm very open to hear different narratives, but seems like you aren't exactly willing to hear or share, so not even sure why you commented from the get go. This is a discussion board, and in more than happy to discuss the topic, there's no need for personal attacks.

anigbrowl 2y ago

Texas sharpshooter fallacy