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> I think it's far more likely that Mossad has infiltrated whatever foreign (non-Israeli) supply chain they were using. Yeah. Wasn't there something in the Sno

by tivert 2y ago

> I think it's far more likely that Mossad has infiltrated whatever foreign (non-Israeli) supply chain they were using. Yeah. Wasn't there something in the Snowden leaks about the CIA intercepting servers in-transit to install implants on them? I'm sure Israel is doing something similar.

willvarfar 2y ago
During the cold war, Russia intercepted typewriters and teleprinters going to the US and other embassies and inserted implants in them. https://www.cryptomuseum.com/covert/bugs/selectric/ https://www.cryptomuseum.com/covert/bugs/selectric/
- dredmorbius 2y ago
  And the US CIA ran the "Swiss" firm Crypto AG, which sold cable-encryption (as in telegraphic / telex coms) equipment with pre-installed back-doors: <https://www.npr.org/2020/03/05/812499752/uncovering-the-cias-audacious-operation-that-gave-them-access-to-state-secrets https://www.npr.org/2020/03/05/812499752/uncovering-the-cias...> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG>
grubbs 2y ago
It was Cisco routers that made the headlines. Not sure of other gear: https://www.engadget.com/2014-05-16-nsa-bugged-cisco-routers.html https://www.engadget.com/2014-05-16-nsa-bugged-cisco-routers...
craftkiller 2y ago
Yes there was. @48:48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NFrjHmI35w&t=48m48s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NFrjHmI35w&t=48m48s
ikmckenz 2y ago
Photos of an NSA “upgrade” factory show Cisco router getting implant https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa...
- g8oz 2y ago
  No wonder the U.S is so worried about Huawei.
  - dijit 2y ago
    Guilty parties often cast the first accusation.
    - jalk 2y ago
      "Thief believes everybody steals"
      - tivert 2y ago
        > "Thief believes everybody steals" The correct analogy for espionage isn't crime. But even taking that framing, if everyone actually does steal, it doesn't do you any good to be naive and deny reality.
        jalk 2y ago
        It's a proverb, not an analogy (hence the quotes). Read it like "Just because you do X, doesn't mean that everybody else does X too"

by tivert 2y ago

willvarfar 2y ago

During the cold war, Russia intercepted typewriters and teleprinters going to the US and other embassies and inserted implants in them. https://www.cryptomuseum.com/covert/bugs/selectric/ https://www.cryptomuseum.com/covert/bugs/selectric/

dredmorbius 2y ago
And the US CIA ran the "Swiss" firm Crypto AG, which sold cable-encryption (as in telegraphic / telex coms) equipment with pre-installed back-doors: <https://www.npr.org/2020/03/05/812499752/uncovering-the-cias-audacious-operation-that-gave-them-access-to-state-secrets https://www.npr.org/2020/03/05/812499752/uncovering-the-cias...> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG>

grubbs 2y ago

It was Cisco routers that made the headlines. Not sure of other gear: https://www.engadget.com/2014-05-16-nsa-bugged-cisco-routers.html https://www.engadget.com/2014-05-16-nsa-bugged-cisco-routers...

craftkiller 2y ago

Yes there was. @48:48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NFrjHmI35w&t=48m48s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NFrjHmI35w&t=48m48s

ikmckenz 2y ago

Photos of an NSA “upgrade” factory show Cisco router getting implant https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa...

g8oz 2y ago
No wonder the U.S is so worried about Huawei.
- dijit 2y ago
  Guilty parties often cast the first accusation.
  - jalk 2y ago
    "Thief believes everybody steals"
    - tivert 2y ago
      > "Thief believes everybody steals" The correct analogy for espionage isn't crime. But even taking that framing, if everyone actually does steal, it doesn't do you any good to be naive and deny reality.
      - jalk 2y ago
        It's a proverb, not an analogy (hence the quotes). Read it like "Just because you do X, doesn't mean that everybody else does X too"