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Yes, they are belligerents in a battle. I am more pro-Israel in these conflicts, but you are a military target or you aren't, you don’t leave the military when

by dijit 2y ago

Yes, they are belligerents in a battle. I am more pro-Israel in these conflicts, but you are a military target or you aren't, you don’t leave the military when you remove the uniform, only when you agree to leave the military. In fact it is a common tactic of Hamas, when it is discovered they have passionately murdered civilians, that they immediately claim that it was an IDF soldier. Such as the case with Shanni Louk

yread 2y ago
I admire the clarity of your moral compass. But consequently if that is ok, then targeting reservists is also ok, right? And since almost everyone in Israel is a reservist there are really no civilians in Israel only military targets, right? So, Hamas an Hezbollah blindly firing rockets are actually striking military targets with surgical precision
- dijit 2y ago
  Gets muddy with conscripts. Gets decidedly less muddy with volunteers and officers.
- IAmGraydon 2y ago
  The problem for your “argument” comes when you apply the harsh light of actual fact to it. Israel has 169,500 active personnel and 465,000 reservists. This represents 6.6% of their population. Furthermore, those age 18-40 can be called up in a national emergency just as most countries can call up a draft. This is not the same as reservists and still represents a fraction of the population. Attempting to pass off as fact that everyone in Israel is a reservist and are therefore legitimate targets is simple disinformation. You already knew that, though. But hey - you had a point to make, right?
  - yread 2y ago
    I probably haven't used the right term, I thought reservists are people who went through military service. This article (with obvious agenda) https://www.jpost.com/opinion/the-myth-of-compulsory-military-service-in-israel-569779 https://www.jpost.com/opinion/the-myth-of-compulsory-militar... says that the enlistment rate plummeted from 75% to 50%. This more recent (and accurate?) article based on actual numbers puts it at 69%: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-743886 https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/art... So, >every other person in Israel has gone through military service. If you compare that to "collateral damage" when killing Hamas' terrorists, shooting rocets blindly is more accurate

by dijit 2y ago

yread 2y ago

I admire the clarity of your moral compass. But consequently if that is ok, then targeting reservists is also ok, right? And since almost everyone in Israel is a reservist there are really no civilians in Israel only military targets, right? So, Hamas an Hezbollah blindly firing rockets are actually striking military targets with surgical precision

dijit 2y ago
Gets muddy with conscripts. Gets decidedly less muddy with volunteers and officers.
IAmGraydon 2y ago
The problem for your “argument” comes when you apply the harsh light of actual fact to it. Israel has 169,500 active personnel and 465,000 reservists. This represents 6.6% of their population. Furthermore, those age 18-40 can be called up in a national emergency just as most countries can call up a draft. This is not the same as reservists and still represents a fraction of the population. Attempting to pass off as fact that everyone in Israel is a reservist and are therefore legitimate targets is simple disinformation. You already knew that, though. But hey - you had a point to make, right?
- yread 2y ago
  I probably haven't used the right term, I thought reservists are people who went through military service. This article (with obvious agenda) https://www.jpost.com/opinion/the-myth-of-compulsory-military-service-in-israel-569779 https://www.jpost.com/opinion/the-myth-of-compulsory-militar... says that the enlistment rate plummeted from 75% to 50%. This more recent (and accurate?) article based on actual numbers puts it at 69%: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-743886 https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/art... So, >every other person in Israel has gone through military service. If you compare that to "collateral damage" when killing Hamas' terrorists, shooting rocets blindly is more accurate