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Alpine is great for your blog, but it's not even a little bit tempting for real world professional projects. Looking back at every project I've worked on there'

Alpine is great for your blog, but it's not even a little bit tempting for real world professional projects. Looking back at every project I've worked on there's no shot I would ever select Alpine for any of them. These type of condescending comments really scream "I'm not even a web developer but here's my strong opinion as someone who only makes toy front ends to demo my data work"

zem 2y ago
would you use one of these python-to-web frameworks like rio though? I think gp was just saying alpine was a good alternative to that.
- fkyoureadthedoc 2y ago
  Also 0 chance. Well maybe under some specific unrealistic constraints. But I am a fan of alternative approaches to the typical stuff just for the fun and learning aspect of it. I'd never come on here and be like "oh well that's cute, but it's useless, why can't we just x". For example I think Imba is pretty cool and I've used it for a couple throwaway personal projects just to give a spin, but I'd not use it at work.
rmbyrro 2y ago
An undesired level of condescendence for a message against it, no? My first impression...
pier25 2y ago
Back in the day we did plenty of "real world professional projects" with jQuery. I don't see why you couldn't with Alpine. Yeah at some point you may need a more sophisticated solution but plenty of projects don't need React. This very forum you're using is just a very simple vanilla js file.
- ramesh31 2y ago
  >Back in the day we did plenty of "real world professional projects" with jQuery. And they were terribly unperformant, bug ridden, messes of spaghetti that I wouldn't wish on anyone in the year 2024. Things evolved past that for a reason.
  - sgarland 2y ago
    Bold of you to assume that modern web dev isn’t also a terribly unperformant, bug-ridden mess of spaghetti.
    - pier25 2y ago
      Exactly. I've seen way more bloated React/Angular SPA apps than the typical PHP/jQuery Web 2.0 from back in the day.
- fkyoureadthedoc 2y ago
  > Back in the day we did plenty of "real world professional projects" with jQuery. I was there, it sucked

zem 2y ago

would you use one of these python-to-web frameworks like rio though? I think gp was just saying alpine was a good alternative to that.

fkyoureadthedoc 2y ago
Also 0 chance. Well maybe under some specific unrealistic constraints. But I am a fan of alternative approaches to the typical stuff just for the fun and learning aspect of it. I'd never come on here and be like "oh well that's cute, but it's useless, why can't we just x". For example I think Imba is pretty cool and I've used it for a couple throwaway personal projects just to give a spin, but I'd not use it at work.

rmbyrro 2y ago

An undesired level of condescendence for a message against it, no? My first impression...

pier25 2y ago

Back in the day we did plenty of "real world professional projects" with jQuery. I don't see why you couldn't with Alpine. Yeah at some point you may need a more sophisticated solution but plenty of projects don't need React. This very forum you're using is just a very simple vanilla js file.

ramesh31 2y ago
>Back in the day we did plenty of "real world professional projects" with jQuery. And they were terribly unperformant, bug ridden, messes of spaghetti that I wouldn't wish on anyone in the year 2024. Things evolved past that for a reason.
- sgarland 2y ago
  Bold of you to assume that modern web dev isn’t also a terribly unperformant, bug-ridden mess of spaghetti.
  - pier25 2y ago
    Exactly. I've seen way more bloated React/Angular SPA apps than the typical PHP/jQuery Web 2.0 from back in the day.
fkyoureadthedoc 2y ago
> Back in the day we did plenty of "real world professional projects" with jQuery. I was there, it sucked