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This being a hack is improbable in my opinion. If you see the pictures of the aftermath, the damage is too big to be the result of a lithium battery explosion.

by 581786 2y ago

This being a hack is improbable in my opinion. If you see the pictures of the aftermath, the damage is too big to be the result of a lithium battery explosion. Moreover the devices exploded at the same time in different locations (won’t happen if they made the battery overheat till explosion) HA probably bought a bad batch with implanted explosives and they set it off now.

tamimio 2y ago
Pretty much, yeah. The hack was used only to activate it remotely, and in pager systems, it should not be a hard task. But I highly doubt it was only due to battery overheating. I have seen scooter batteries exploding before, and they don’t burst as quickly as this one.
wut42 2y ago
I tend to agree with you. However it has been said (from wsj article) that "some people felt the pagers heat up and disposed of them".
bluescrn 2y ago
There's footage on Twitter showing an actual detonation, with a bang. Not a huge blast (the man falls to the ground injured, but bystanders seemed unharmed). Definitely not the rapid burning 'whoosh' of a battery fire.
anonu 2y ago
> This being a hack is improbable Your definition of hack differs from mine. This is hack in every sense of the word: supply chain hack, signals hack, and more...
- akira2501 2y ago
  A nation state used it's awesome power to steal something that wasn't theirs and then altered it. This is not a hack. It's just brute force.
- npteljes 2y ago
  The context clearly explains what OP means. The meaning is that "This is not something that is achieved via simply hacking a normal device remotely. This is something that is achieved via doing something extra to the device first, and maybe then hacking it remotely." Another thing is that if we begin to use "hack" for every means of attack and unauthorized access, then the word loses its meaning. There is no supply chain hack, but there is a supply chain attack.

by 581786 2y ago

tamimio 2y ago

Pretty much, yeah. The hack was used only to activate it remotely, and in pager systems, it should not be a hard task. But I highly doubt it was only due to battery overheating. I have seen scooter batteries exploding before, and they don’t burst as quickly as this one.

wut42 2y ago

I tend to agree with you. However it has been said (from wsj article) that "some people felt the pagers heat up and disposed of them".

bluescrn 2y ago

There's footage on Twitter showing an actual detonation, with a bang. Not a huge blast (the man falls to the ground injured, but bystanders seemed unharmed). Definitely not the rapid burning 'whoosh' of a battery fire.

anonu 2y ago

> This being a hack is improbable Your definition of hack differs from mine. This is hack in every sense of the word: supply chain hack, signals hack, and more...

akira2501 2y ago
A nation state used it's awesome power to steal something that wasn't theirs and then altered it. This is not a hack. It's just brute force.
npteljes 2y ago
The context clearly explains what OP means. The meaning is that "This is not something that is achieved via simply hacking a normal device remotely. This is something that is achieved via doing something extra to the device first, and maybe then hacking it remotely." Another thing is that if we begin to use "hack" for every means of attack and unauthorized access, then the word loses its meaning. There is no supply chain hack, but there is a supply chain attack.