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I had the fun of briefly checking yesterday that the long-forgotten Vagrant packaging for 13.4-RELEASE still works. It does! And FreeBSD is a real fun, calm li

I had the fun of briefly checking yesterday that the long-forgotten Vagrant packaging for 13.4-RELEASE still works. It does! And FreeBSD is a real fun, calm little playground for those of us who spend most of our lives on Linux. I'd recommend people try it out if for no other reason than just to see how things could be done otherwise, and to get a chance to read Michael W. Lucas's stellar books on the topic.

nozzlegear 2y ago
I'm quite interested in putting FreeBSD on one of my dev servers. I had tried it back in July and got as far as installing Podman, but despite Podman for FreeBSD coming with a message that says many containers work with FreeBSD's Linux emulation¹, I couldn't even get the basic "hello world" container to start. I know FreeBSD has something called jails that are akin to containers, but I don't know anything about them and felt too frustrated being unable to get a simple Podman container off the ground. I want to dedicate some time to trying it again soon. [1] https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/podman/ https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/podman/
- sulandor 2y ago
  we all know that feeling. nbd podman/docker seem heavily entrenced in linux land, might be worth to check out alternatives. fwiw jails are much simpler to understand and use. still; can't shake the image of my in-laws complaining about different desktop icons and "how are we supposed to work with this?"
  - nozzlegear 2y ago
    > still; can't shake the image of my in-laws complaining about different desktop icons and "how are we supposed to work with this?" Haha that's exactly how I feel! I'm not married to Podman/Docker/containers in general, I'd just been hoping to get my server migrated from an old Ubuntu setup over to FreeBSD that weekend. Migrating the sites and apps I had running on that old server from containers to jails, too, wasn't something I had planned for, and the weekend ran out of time before I could start looking into how I'd do it. I'm going to take another whack at it soon.
- nesarkvechnep 2y ago
  Jails are not like containers but the technology enabling the containers. There's an ongoing effort to bring OCI container support to FreeBSD, backed by jails and ZFS.

nozzlegear 2y ago

I'm quite interested in putting FreeBSD on one of my dev servers. I had tried it back in July and got as far as installing Podman, but despite Podman for FreeBSD coming with a message that says many containers work with FreeBSD's Linux emulation¹, I couldn't even get the basic "hello world" container to start. I know FreeBSD has something called jails that are akin to containers, but I don't know anything about them and felt too frustrated being unable to get a simple Podman container off the ground. I want to dedicate some time to trying it again soon. [1] https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/podman/ https://www.freshports.org/sysutils/podman/

sulandor 2y ago
we all know that feeling. nbd podman/docker seem heavily entrenced in linux land, might be worth to check out alternatives. fwiw jails are much simpler to understand and use. still; can't shake the image of my in-laws complaining about different desktop icons and "how are we supposed to work with this?"
- nozzlegear 2y ago
  > still; can't shake the image of my in-laws complaining about different desktop icons and "how are we supposed to work with this?" Haha that's exactly how I feel! I'm not married to Podman/Docker/containers in general, I'd just been hoping to get my server migrated from an old Ubuntu setup over to FreeBSD that weekend. Migrating the sites and apps I had running on that old server from containers to jails, too, wasn't something I had planned for, and the weekend ran out of time before I could start looking into how I'd do it. I'm going to take another whack at it soon.
nesarkvechnep 2y ago
Jails are not like containers but the technology enabling the containers. There's an ongoing effort to bring OCI container support to FreeBSD, backed by jails and ZFS.