> just how intertwined the actual USofA and the actual Great Britain Foggy Bottom* has always been a part of Oceania? * pedantry: the actual State Dep't were

> just how intertwined the actual USofA and the actual Great Britain Foggy Bottom* has always been a part of Oceania? * pedantry: the actual State Dep't were in Philadelphia at the time Lagniappe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Influence_of_Sea_Power_upon_History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Influence_of_Sea_Power_upo... EDIT: looking at en.wikipedia's entry for the results of the War of 1812, it offers pretty heavy evidence for your position: - Anglo–American status quo ante bellum - Spanish control over West Florida weakened and Mobile territory claimed - Tecumseh's confederacy decisively defeated and dissolved I think it strange to have a war that doesn't alter the positions of the principals, but does allow them to take a few third parties off the board; on the other hand that just may be my naivete.