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Is there a story of how they were caught? They did have pretty good protection against it. Was it a slip somewhere? Did their pride take over so they told too m

by scorch 14y ago

Is there a story of how they were caught? They did have pretty good protection against it. Was it a slip somewhere? Did their pride take over so they told too many of their friends, who may have turned them in?

pyre 14y ago
Sabu helped the FBI. According to Wikipedia: On August 15, he pleaded guilty to several hacking charges and agreed to cooperate with the FBI. Over the following seven months he successfully unmasked the other members of the group.
- scottmey 14y ago
  The new issue of Wired has a pretty in-depth article about Anonymous explaining Sabu's cooperation and proceeding arrests.
- Scramblejams 14y ago
  To that I would add that Sabu was found because (according to what I read) he once signed into a Lulzsec IRC channel without masking his residential IP. So yes, there was a slip, which led to Sabu's cooperation.
  - cldrope 14y ago
    There was a slip which led to his capture. Instead of paying the unfettered price for the crimes he committed, he ratted out his friends in a blatant abuse of the system in order to lessen his punishment. The lesson for today kids, is never commit a crime alone, so you have someone to rat out on for that plea deal!
    - danielweber 14y ago
      Why are plea bargains to help capture more people an abuse of the system?
      - freehunter 14y ago
        Agreed. I'd rather see all of them go down with lessened punishment than one go down while the rest are off the hook. Although I don't like plea bargains which let the squealer off the hook.
        cldrope 14y ago
        That's the point. If they were doing their job and interrogating well as well as investigating well they'd catch them all just like Sabu. Unfortunately they're not and it's easier to offer a plea deal after a short period of intimidation so they do that. I think they should all pay, but this way they just abuse something built into the system that was made as an incentive for people they didn't think they COULD catch otherwise.
        freehunter 14y ago
        With Sabu, they caught him on mere chance. He connected directly to IRC from his home address, without proxies or going to a wifi hotspot to hide himself. Not everyone will make that mistake, and then it becomes infinitely harder to find them. It's about resource management.
        pyre 14y ago
        > If they were doing their job and interrogating well > as well as investigating well they'd catch them all > just like Sabu. They used the fact that Sabu had their trust. The idea that they would be able to plant someone in LulzSec and take then down from the insider within 7 months seems laughable.

by scorch 14y ago

pyre 14y ago

Sabu helped the FBI. According to Wikipedia: On August 15, he pleaded guilty to several hacking charges and agreed to cooperate with the FBI. Over the following seven months he successfully unmasked the other members of the group.

scottmey 14y ago
The new issue of Wired has a pretty in-depth article about Anonymous explaining Sabu's cooperation and proceeding arrests.
Scramblejams 14y ago
To that I would add that Sabu was found because (according to what I read) he once signed into a Lulzsec IRC channel without masking his residential IP. So yes, there was a slip, which led to Sabu's cooperation.
- cldrope 14y ago
  There was a slip which led to his capture. Instead of paying the unfettered price for the crimes he committed, he ratted out his friends in a blatant abuse of the system in order to lessen his punishment. The lesson for today kids, is never commit a crime alone, so you have someone to rat out on for that plea deal!
  - danielweber 14y ago
    Why are plea bargains to help capture more people an abuse of the system?
    - freehunter 14y ago
      Agreed. I'd rather see all of them go down with lessened punishment than one go down while the rest are off the hook. Although I don't like plea bargains which let the squealer off the hook.
      - cldrope 14y ago
        That's the point. If they were doing their job and interrogating well as well as investigating well they'd catch them all just like Sabu. Unfortunately they're not and it's easier to offer a plea deal after a short period of intimidation so they do that. I think they should all pay, but this way they just abuse something built into the system that was made as an incentive for people they didn't think they COULD catch otherwise.
        freehunter 14y ago
        With Sabu, they caught him on mere chance. He connected directly to IRC from his home address, without proxies or going to a wifi hotspot to hide himself. Not everyone will make that mistake, and then it becomes infinitely harder to find them. It's about resource management.
        pyre 14y ago
        > If they were doing their job and interrogating well > as well as investigating well they'd catch them all > just like Sabu. They used the fact that Sabu had their trust. The idea that they would be able to plant someone in LulzSec and take then down from the insider within 7 months seems laughable.