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Nothing to see here folks, this definitely is not just another violent gang stealing from the populace with zero repercussions. It's a state sanctioned violent
by Brett_Riverboat 2y ago
Nothing to see here folks, this definitely is not just another violent gang stealing from the populace with zero repercussions.
It's a state sanctioned violent gang that also happens to be completely immune from any sort of responsibility.
Totally different things.
- bb88 2y agoI'm wondering if the Indiana police train their drug dogs with the scent of cash as well.
- more_corn 2y agoAll contraband dogs are trained to alert on cash.
- eru 2y agoSounds plausible, but do you have any sources?
- standardUser 2y agoDogs absolutely can be and are trained to detect cash. A better question might be, what can't dogs be trained to sniff out? https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/news/meet-currency-detector-dog-made-2-4m-canadian-government/ https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/news/meet-currency-detecto...
- vincnetas 2y agoLSD?
- youainti 2y agoCocaine and rabbits blood apparently. https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2016/09/24/danish-fishermen-among-forgotten-world-war-ii-heroes/9940667007/ https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2016/09/24/danish-fishe...
- justinclift 2y agoSound more like the opposite? During a three-week period, fishermen fooled the Nazis and police dogs who searched their ships – lacing handkerchiefs with a mixture of rabbit blood and cocaine, in order to fool the dogs. That kind of seems like the mixture of rabbit blood and cocaine overwhelms other scents?
- gorgoiler 2y agoArf arf officer Buddy has detected traces of potentially terroristic thoughts in your mind racks shotgun unlock your iPhone NOW!
- justinclift 2y agoBlack pepper ground finely? From the concept of "they'll only do that once, and probably be useless the rest of the day". ;)
- derstander 2y agoI hadn't heard of this before, but here are some sources. Note this quote from [2], U.S. Customs and Border Protection: "Canines are taught to detect concealed U.S. currency and firearms. Both the Officer/Agent and canine are taught the proper search sequences when searching vehicles, aircraft, freight, luggage, mail, passengers and premises." I have no idea what the ratio of scientific backing vs. security theater is, though. [0] https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/golden-valleys-new-k-9-is-trained-to-sniff-out-money/ https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/golden-valleys-new-k-... [1] https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/news/meet-currency-detector-dog-made-2-4m-canadian-government/ https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/news/meet-currency-detecto... [2] https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/canine-program/disciplines https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/canine-...
- tempodox 2y agoThe mention of “U.S. currency” raises my suspicions. How does a canine distinguish between U.S. and Mexican or Canadian currency?
- JumpCrisscross 2y agoPolymer versus paper?
- b112 2y agoPolymer versus cotton + dyes. US currency has a unique smell to my human nose, even.
- nativeit 2y agoTheir handler whispers “dinero” or “money, eh” instead of “deutsche mark”.
- inglor_cz 2y agoIDK about Canadian, but even I can tell the difference between USD and EUR/CZK banknotes by smell. That said, no one on the Internet knows that I am a dog.
- readyplayernull 2y agoBut can they detect gold and diamonds?
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- 0cf8612b2e1e 2y agoBut…nearly everyone carries or handles some amount of cash. Is a bank teller continually triggering the dogs?
- zxexz 2y ago> But…nearly everyone carries or handles some amount of cash Well, then I guess the handler can usually find probable cause!
- giraffe_lady 2y agoOnly when the dog handler wants them to!
- weaksauce 2y agoconsidering most cash has traces of cocaine on it they probably don't need to train them hard.
- renewiltord 2y agoThe point of K-9 units is to manufacture probable cause. Yes they can “smell” the cash if the handler wants them to.
- gorgoiler 2y agoIf this were the case, would someone not have challenged it in court by now? If the dogs and their handlers were challenged in a controlled trial and shown to be biased, that would make for a useful test case.
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y agoTo do that, dog should be handled by someone who is not their regular police handler. Then they would claim he doesn't know how to handle the dog properly, or doesn't have the required "soul bond" with the animal. Can't win against crooks.
- krisoft 2y ago> To do that, dog should be handled by someone who is not their regular police handler. Not necessarily if the experiment is double blind. (Or tripple blind I guess because it is the dog, the handler and the on-site experimenter who are not aware of where the samples are hidden.) > Can't win against crooks. That is the bigger problem.
- EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK 2y agoyou are right
- namaria 2y agoWow questioning policing methods gets you automatically labelled as 'crook'? How is the boot tasting this morning?
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- babyshake 2y agoBy the way, there is an excellent film called Rebel Ridge now on Netflix where the basic premise is about small town police abusing the practice of civil asset forfeiture.
- tpxl 2y agoIt's been recommending that movie to me, and it looks excellent, but I know if I watch it it's gonna end up with me throwing the TV out the window out of rage.
- gljiva 2y agoI know it's just a figure of speech, but I'd also like to add a reminder if someone needs to see it: channeling that same rage into investing time and effort into making a change is the very reason why such an enraging show is made and why it should be watched. Just raging into the wind is pointless, specially after choosing not to invest anything into making a change
- AyyEye 2y agoMeanwhile las vegas metro PD is happy to take anything they can get. The last year they reported seizures there were a few under $1.
- soco 2y agoIf that comforts you (I know it doesn't) Swiss police can take any money claiming it touched cocaine so it was maaayyyybe used in trafficking. Stats say about 90% of banknotes qualify so it's a sure shot for them. Even if you're cleared of the accusations, they will STILL keep your money.
- ProllyInfamous 2y agoState of Nevada v. $0.69 USD "Nice." — LVPD, probably.
- qwertytyyuu 2y agoah good ol' police
- starspangled 2y agoThe government has always been a violent gang that steals people's labor and property by force, and says that's okay because they wrote on some pieces of paper that they are allowed to do that. But when I point that out I'm the delusional extremist.
- stonethrowaway 2y agoAnd how!
- starspangled 2y agoClaims the anti-lawful-forfeiture ultra-extremist!
- ramun1456 2y agoFor what it's worth, I agree with you. After all, none of us living in "democracies" were ever given a chance to vote about the legitimacy of the constitution, of the law codes, of the armed thugs, of the state itself...
- starspangled 2y agoI don't know that a system with no government or voluntarily funded common services and functions would be "better" than what we have, but civil forfeiture is not fundamentally different than taxation, from the perspective that OP viewed it. The government decides that is a legal way to raise revenue and they carry it out under threat of force. You can disagree with civil forfeiture while agreeing with taxation, but not with general complaints about a state sanctioned violent gang stealing from the populace.
- bruce511 2y agoI'm certainly no fan of civil forfeiture but I eould argue that it's fundamentally different from taxation. Taxes are impersonal. The rules apply to "everyone" [1]. They are written up, voted on (by congress) and so on. Civil forfeiture is a random event made by a random cop on a targeted individual. It is the very definition of unfair. Equally you can define taxation as "stealing" hut it's really not. (CF is stealing in my book). It was different in the past, but today taxation is used to pay for things - it doesn't just go to the bank account of a person. -some- govt and govt services are necessary for society to function. (A quick look at places without govt demonstrate that.) And yes, one can argue about the priority of one service over another. But fundamentally govt serves the society and taxes is just the way that gets paid for. The scale, priorities, spending of govt is obviously up for debate, but funding it is necessary, and so I don't consider taxes to be theft. Incidentally, if you feel that all govt is bad and we should exist without one I recommend trying to live in a place where the govt is non-functioning. Thats when you discover where all that spending goes and what it achieves. [1] for some definition of "everyone" - the system has flaws.