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I suspect that Larry is a closet libertarian, and this is his accelerationist response.

by hello_computer 2y ago

cocacola1 2y ago
Or could just be wishcasting a police state, which seems more likely.
- hprotagonist 2y ago
  there's not much of a difference. Just which end of the truncheon you think you're likely to be on.
smegger001 2y ago
i suspect his sudden love of big brother is that he plans to own the hardware its cloud runs on.
- hello_computer 2y ago
  that’s what i said. libertarian. thiel is in the same biz. the cattle have clearly and consistently expressed a preference for security over liberty, so might as well make a buck off it! not endorsing btw, just saying.
  - smegger001 2y ago
    libertarian ideology seems rather counter to the existence of a police state. though many in favor of a corporatocracy seem to claim be libertarian as they look no deeper than low taxes and minimal regulation while ignoring the personal liberties for masses as that part isn't profitable for them.
    - hello_computer 2y ago
      since a lot of people here have adhd-tldr, i repeat: not an endorsement, but if you see “the writing on the wall” (i.e. the plebes flushing inalienable rights down the toilet for cash and prizes), and that we’re headed for a feudalism revival, it would take a martyr-like devotion to libertarian principles to abstain from the surveillance-state gold rush.
      - soulofmischief 2y ago
        I would ask that you reconsider using "adhd" as a derogatory manner in your future posts, it is quite ostracizing for people with actual ADHD to encounter such language. ADHD does not mean "can't pay attention to something longer than a few words". Please at least educate yourself on the disorder before using it as an insult. Additionally, you are using "libertarian" in an incorrect manner. A libertarian is someone who believes in minimal state intervention in personal affairs, which is at odds with a desire for total state surveillance.
        hello_computer 2y ago
        takes one to know one; i have actual ADHD. having a doctor’s note does not alter the facts of the situation. as for “libertarian”: principle vs practice. think of the Christians. local businessman has the Gospels on his lips, has the checkbook wide-open for the church, but when that secretary is looking sweet and juicy…
        soulofmischief 2y ago
        Having ADHD doesn't mean that you have a consequence-free pass to be insensitive with your words. It doesn't automatically grant you full understanding of the disorder, nor of the broader social implications of normalizing the use of "ADHD" as a slur. I again ask that you reconsider your language. > as for “libertarian”: principle vs practice. think of the Christians Are you claiming that Ellison is a private libertarian, or a public one? He has a clear history of backing GOP candidates, has not claimed to be libertarian, and so I am confused by what you mean. He neither preaches nor practices libertarianism, publicly or privately.
        hello_computer 2y ago
        From a Randian perspective, he does practice it—publicly & privately. They all do. If you mean that he falls short of some ancap purity test, hate to break it to you, but that’s just their version of “that wasn’t true socialism”. As for the ADHD sensitivity, deal with it. People who get so stuck on their diagnoses only do it because they aren’t performing. It’s very important to milk it for maximum victimhood, so that the next time the boss/customer/client gets pissed at him for not delivering the goods, he can sue them for discrimination against his “disability”, instead of getting fired for being a flake. I don’t care what people say about ADHD because I perform, and see that sort of play as an ignoble win.
- candiddevmike 2y ago
  Kleptocrat

I suspect that Larry is a closet libertarian, and this is his accelerationist response.

cocacola1 2y ago

Or could just be wishcasting a police state, which seems more likely.

hprotagonist 2y ago
there's not much of a difference. Just which end of the truncheon you think you're likely to be on.

smegger001 2y ago

i suspect his sudden love of big brother is that he plans to own the hardware its cloud runs on.

hello_computer 2y ago
that’s what i said. libertarian. thiel is in the same biz. the cattle have clearly and consistently expressed a preference for security over liberty, so might as well make a buck off it! not endorsing btw, just saying.
- smegger001 2y ago
  libertarian ideology seems rather counter to the existence of a police state. though many in favor of a corporatocracy seem to claim be libertarian as they look no deeper than low taxes and minimal regulation while ignoring the personal liberties for masses as that part isn't profitable for them.
  - hello_computer 2y ago
    since a lot of people here have adhd-tldr, i repeat: not an endorsement, but if you see “the writing on the wall” (i.e. the plebes flushing inalienable rights down the toilet for cash and prizes), and that we’re headed for a feudalism revival, it would take a martyr-like devotion to libertarian principles to abstain from the surveillance-state gold rush.
    - soulofmischief 2y ago
      I would ask that you reconsider using "adhd" as a derogatory manner in your future posts, it is quite ostracizing for people with actual ADHD to encounter such language. ADHD does not mean "can't pay attention to something longer than a few words". Please at least educate yourself on the disorder before using it as an insult. Additionally, you are using "libertarian" in an incorrect manner. A libertarian is someone who believes in minimal state intervention in personal affairs, which is at odds with a desire for total state surveillance.
      - hello_computer 2y ago
        takes one to know one; i have actual ADHD. having a doctor’s note does not alter the facts of the situation. as for “libertarian”: principle vs practice. think of the Christians. local businessman has the Gospels on his lips, has the checkbook wide-open for the church, but when that secretary is looking sweet and juicy…
        soulofmischief 2y ago
        Having ADHD doesn't mean that you have a consequence-free pass to be insensitive with your words. It doesn't automatically grant you full understanding of the disorder, nor of the broader social implications of normalizing the use of "ADHD" as a slur. I again ask that you reconsider your language. > as for “libertarian”: principle vs practice. think of the Christians Are you claiming that Ellison is a private libertarian, or a public one? He has a clear history of backing GOP candidates, has not claimed to be libertarian, and so I am confused by what you mean. He neither preaches nor practices libertarianism, publicly or privately.
        hello_computer 2y ago
        From a Randian perspective, he does practice it—publicly & privately. They all do. If you mean that he falls short of some ancap purity test, hate to break it to you, but that’s just their version of “that wasn’t true socialism”. As for the ADHD sensitivity, deal with it. People who get so stuck on their diagnoses only do it because they aren’t performing. It’s very important to milk it for maximum victimhood, so that the next time the boss/customer/client gets pissed at him for not delivering the goods, he can sue them for discrimination against his “disability”, instead of getting fired for being a flake. I don’t care what people say about ADHD because I perform, and see that sort of play as an ignoble win.
candiddevmike 2y ago
Kleptocrat