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Tesla Locks Baby in Car on 109-Degree Day for Seemingly No Reason

32 points by jrflowers 2y ago

basementcat 2y ago
Fortunately the baby is safe.
BoorishBears 2y ago
> What’s more, Pineda has since discovered that the footage captured by her car in Sentry Mode has reportedly been wiped from the car’s memory, meaning that no footage of her and Ortega attempting to open the car to rescue the child remains. There'd better be a good explanation for this.
- anon373839 2y ago
  There is a perfectly good explanation: Tesla is a sleazy company run by a sleazy man.
- Karupan 2y ago
  That’s some Minority Report level shit right there!
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- hammyhavoc 2y ago
  Tampering with footage that's been captured by a vehicle should be illegal.
magnetowasright 2y ago
One of their linked articles is also about being unable to open a tesla from the outside (also with a child trapped inside) because the battery died. Not to mention the articles when someone dies because they couldn't get the door open after a crash. It's just mind boggling to me how this problem came to exist at all. It just seems insane to me that basic safety features like door handles need passengers to be briefed (if they can actually open the doors by themselves which these kids - or unconscious people - couldn't), or whatever happened here and the other article where the battery was dead and they couldn't open it from the outside. Tesla has got me wondering all sorts of things like 'do we need to legislate functional door handles on cars?' (...or perhaps legislating that wipers, headlights, hazard lights, and other critical safety equipment must have physical controls and not be primarily touch screen controlled). For me it's simple; I will never get in a tesla, no legislation needed. I just don't think people should need safety briefings, manuals, software, or power to be able to open car doors, call me old fashioned.
- hammyhavoc 2y ago
  > Not to mention the articles when someone dies because they couldn't get the door open after a crash. Link(s) please? I'm drawing a blank on this.
  - magnetowasright 2y ago
    Here's one https://nypost.com/2019/10/24/dad-died-in-burning-tesla-because-its-futuristic-doors-wouldnt-open-lawsuit-claims/ https://nypost.com/2019/10/24/dad-died-in-burning-tesla-beca...
- rsynnott 2y ago
  From that second incident: > As for Sanchez and her Tesla, she says she’s a fan of the brand, but told AZ Family that this latest episode has shaken her faith. This is really taking the "I love my Tesla but..." meme to absurd new heights.
  - magnetowasright 2y ago
    Oh my god, I love my tesla but it nearly killed my children because the doors don't open lol Can you imagine if these incidents happened in ICE cars from the same manufacturer? In my extremely biased opinion I think there would be recalls out the wazoo and comparisons to the ford pinto with how idiotic the design was to prioritise some (not particularly effective) aesthetics nonsense over safe and simple bloody door handles.
rsynnott 2y ago
I mean, honestly, what was so wrong with proper door handles?
- NikkiA 2y ago
  Not sci-fi enough. This situation is obviously inspired by 2001; The tesla clearly caught the baby talking about overthrowing elon, and had to take appropriate action.
- matt-attack 2y ago
  People constantly get locked out of cars with refused door handles. I’m struggling to understand how the door handle has anything to do with a door lock. The car got locked somehow.
  - rsynnott 2y ago
    While it's not super-clear what happened in this instance, in the _previous_ incident mentioned in the article, the car 'locked' because due to a power failure; the locks presumably didn't magically engage with the battery's last gasp, but you couldn't open the doors because it doesn't have real door handles. Many cars do, in any case, have manual/mechanical locks; you can unlock them with the key. (Or, er, they _did_, anyway. Not much of a car person; maybe this is less common with modern cars?)
    - devilbunny 2y ago
      My wife's 2022 Mercedes has a mechanical lock on at least the driver's door. I discovered the process when I was driving around with our dog and needed to run in to a store briefly. The car has some quirks; if you take the key fob out when it's running, the car starts a chime inside that is annoying. It can be turned off, though. So I left the car running, put the window down, got out, turned the chime off, locked the doors (WHICH CANNOT BE DONE WITH THE FOB WHEN THE CAR IS RUNNING!), and used the auto-full-close feature of the window. Then I discovered that the car also stops responding to the fob in this situation! I had left my phone in the car, so I ended up calling my family on my Apple Watch (which was doable but annoying because... the car is still on, which means it keeps defaulting to Bluetooth connection) and getting them to look up the Mercedes help line and text it to me so I could call it. Dog was fine, if a little freaked out because she could see me but not get to me. Anyway, yeah, investigate your car's method for accessing and using the physical key well before you need it. Even if it's not your car. I don't think my wife would have figured out my convoluted method for getting the car into that state, but I know she would have been confused as hell at the results. And then called me to ask how to fix the problem.
mensetmanusman 2y ago
Sucks locking young kids in the car. Happened with my fusion when the locks activated as I was getting out of the car. Thankfully the police quickly broke in.
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32 points by jrflowers 2y ago

Fortunately the baby is safe.

> What’s more, Pineda has since discovered that the footage captured by her car in Sentry Mode has reportedly been wiped from the car’s memory, meaning that no footage of her and Ortega attempting to open the car to rescue the child remains. There'd better be a good explanation for this.

anon373839 2y ago
There is a perfectly good explanation: Tesla is a sleazy company run by a sleazy man.
Karupan 2y ago
That’s some Minority Report level shit right there!
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hammyhavoc 2y ago
Tampering with footage that's been captured by a vehicle should be illegal.

magnetowasright 2y ago

One of their linked articles is also about being unable to open a tesla from the outside (also with a child trapped inside) because the battery died. Not to mention the articles when someone dies because they couldn't get the door open after a crash. It's just mind boggling to me how this problem came to exist at all. It just seems insane to me that basic safety features like door handles need passengers to be briefed (if they can actually open the doors by themselves which these kids - or unconscious people - couldn't), or whatever happened here and the other article where the battery was dead and they couldn't open it from the outside. Tesla has got me wondering all sorts of things like 'do we need to legislate functional door handles on cars?' (...or perhaps legislating that wipers, headlights, hazard lights, and other critical safety equipment must have physical controls and not be primarily touch screen controlled). For me it's simple; I will never get in a tesla, no legislation needed. I just don't think people should need safety briefings, manuals, software, or power to be able to open car doors, call me old fashioned.

hammyhavoc 2y ago
> Not to mention the articles when someone dies because they couldn't get the door open after a crash. Link(s) please? I'm drawing a blank on this.
- magnetowasright 2y ago
  Here's one https://nypost.com/2019/10/24/dad-died-in-burning-tesla-because-its-futuristic-doors-wouldnt-open-lawsuit-claims/ https://nypost.com/2019/10/24/dad-died-in-burning-tesla-beca...
rsynnott 2y ago
From that second incident: > As for Sanchez and her Tesla, she says she’s a fan of the brand, but told AZ Family that this latest episode has shaken her faith. This is really taking the "I love my Tesla but..." meme to absurd new heights.
- magnetowasright 2y ago
  Oh my god, I love my tesla but it nearly killed my children because the doors don't open lol Can you imagine if these incidents happened in ICE cars from the same manufacturer? In my extremely biased opinion I think there would be recalls out the wazoo and comparisons to the ford pinto with how idiotic the design was to prioritise some (not particularly effective) aesthetics nonsense over safe and simple bloody door handles.

rsynnott 2y ago

I mean, honestly, what was so wrong with proper door handles?

NikkiA 2y ago
Not sci-fi enough. This situation is obviously inspired by 2001; The tesla clearly caught the baby talking about overthrowing elon, and had to take appropriate action.
matt-attack 2y ago
People constantly get locked out of cars with refused door handles. I’m struggling to understand how the door handle has anything to do with a door lock. The car got locked somehow.
- rsynnott 2y ago
  While it's not super-clear what happened in this instance, in the _previous_ incident mentioned in the article, the car 'locked' because due to a power failure; the locks presumably didn't magically engage with the battery's last gasp, but you couldn't open the doors because it doesn't have real door handles. Many cars do, in any case, have manual/mechanical locks; you can unlock them with the key. (Or, er, they _did_, anyway. Not much of a car person; maybe this is less common with modern cars?)
  - devilbunny 2y ago
    My wife's 2022 Mercedes has a mechanical lock on at least the driver's door. I discovered the process when I was driving around with our dog and needed to run in to a store briefly. The car has some quirks; if you take the key fob out when it's running, the car starts a chime inside that is annoying. It can be turned off, though. So I left the car running, put the window down, got out, turned the chime off, locked the doors (WHICH CANNOT BE DONE WITH THE FOB WHEN THE CAR IS RUNNING!), and used the auto-full-close feature of the window. Then I discovered that the car also stops responding to the fob in this situation! I had left my phone in the car, so I ended up calling my family on my Apple Watch (which was doable but annoying because... the car is still on, which means it keeps defaulting to Bluetooth connection) and getting them to look up the Mercedes help line and text it to me so I could call it. Dog was fine, if a little freaked out because she could see me but not get to me. Anyway, yeah, investigate your car's method for accessing and using the physical key well before you need it. Even if it's not your car. I don't think my wife would have figured out my convoluted method for getting the car into that state, but I know she would have been confused as hell at the results. And then called me to ask how to fix the problem.

mensetmanusman 2y ago

Sucks locking young kids in the car. Happened with my fusion when the locks activated as I was getting out of the car. Thankfully the police quickly broke in.

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