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> and productivity are better in office (i.e., what they actually say in their announcements) They had the exact opposite conclusions when they were pushing WF
by wubrr 2y ago
> and productivity are better in office (i.e., what they actually say in their announcements)
They had the exact opposite conclusions when they were pushing WFH. They also shut down comment threads and questions from internal employees asking for data backing up their more recent claims.
> Big tech companies are mature and no longer need to compete so heavily on brand/perks
If AWS starts losing employees at any serious rate, they will collapse. They already have a huge amount of products and services where the initial engineers left and where oncall/support load is absolutely brutal.
- hyperadvanced 2y agoLove when the “we use data” people shut down discussions around hard metrics when it’s not convenient
- ethbr1 2y agoAn open argument doesn't automatically mean hard metrics. Instead, both sides have to be discussing in good faith, curious about the problem, and open to a variety of conclusions. If management has already made their decision, that's not going to happen. If employees have already decided to ignore anything that doesn't support WFH, that's not going to happen. The greatest failure in modern debate is not honestly engaging with data contrary to the outcome one wants.
- dividefuel 2y agoYes, I think there's a big distinction between "Execs think being in office is better for culture/productivity" VS "Execs have data that proves being in office is better for culture/productivity." I believe the first one is true, but not the second.