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I am familiar with the common use, but it speaks to people in a lower class envying those in a higher class. Here we have people in the same class, just with di

I am familiar with the common use, but it speaks to people in a lower class envying those in a higher class. Here we have people in the same class, just with different paths to get there. So, you must have a pet definition? Regardless, I've never heard a "self-made" rich person complain "I had to work hard to get here. Why oh why wasn't I born rich like that Saudi prince?". They seem to only ever be proud that they were able to become rich. Again, I suppose it has probably happened once, but does not seem common enough to speak of.

Apocryphon 2y ago
It might be more common in terms of political power rather than wealth. Nixon, for example, hated the Ivy League-educated eastern establishment ruling elites that he displaced.
- randomdata 2y ago
  Probably not, though, given that you couldn't find an example of envy and decided to randomly reach for hatred instead for some reason. Again, I suppose it has probably happened once, but is clearly not common enough to speak of (you literally were unable to speak of it).
  - Apocryphon 2y ago
    Here, a House Representative questioning student loan relief announced in August 2022. Not framed as an issue of others paying for the debtors, but rather "what relief do those who already paid off their debt receive?" https://x.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1562461372851847168 https://x.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1562461372851847168 Senator Chuck Grassley: "For our government just to say ok your debt is completely forgiven.. it’s completely unfair" https://x.com/Acyn/status/1562530929838436355 https://x.com/Acyn/status/1562530929838436355 Reporter question during the announcement: "Mr. President, is this unfair to people who paid their student loans or chose not to take out loans?" https://www.c-span.org/video/?522478-1/president-biden-remarks-student-loan-debt-relief-plan https://www.c-span.org/video/?522478-1/president-biden-remar...
    - randomdata 2y ago
      Valid question. Given that they are assuming the debt, what relief are they getting to pass it off onto the next bag holder? Anyone assuming the debt would ask the same question.
      - Apocryphon 2y ago
        "I already paid off my student loans! Am I eligible for a refund and loan forgiveness? Yes, up to $20K — but only under these 2 specific conditions" https://finance.yahoo.com/news/already-paid-off-student-loans-100000238.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/already-paid-off-student-loan...
        randomdata 2y ago
        You seem to be confusing a past loan with the new loan just taken on; a new loan those assuming it don't want to take on in the first place.
        Apocryphon 2y ago
        I am answering your question, plain and simple. You may not like the answer; that is your prerogative, as always.
        randomdata 2y ago
        No, you keep finding diversions to avoid answer the question. Let's face it: The question is unanswerable as there is no parallel and there never was. Your never ending quest to try and find that which does not exist is commendable, and hilarious, but to think that it is answering some kind of question is nonsensical.
        Apocryphon 2y ago
        Here's an example of someone who's paid off their debt, is unhappy at the prospect of others getting relief, but not complaining about being the one to have to pick up the tax bill in order to deliver that relief: > Student loan forgiveness rewards bad decision making I took out a $160,000 student load a decade ago I saved every penny I made to pay it back in full. I ended up paying over $300,000 on the loan Now I'm getting punished because I was too responsible and paid back my loan too quickly? I lived in a $500 a month rat and cockroach infested sun room in Boston for years to pay back this debt If I would have instead ignored my debt and bought cars and useless luxury items I'd get a free $300,000 check? I'm as a-political as it gets. I hate all politicians. But this is insanity and rewards the WORST behavior https://x.com/AlexFinnX/status/1793732427325620625 https://x.com/AlexFinnX/status/1793732427325620625 You seem to disbelieve such a narrative exists.

Apocryphon 2y ago

It might be more common in terms of political power rather than wealth. Nixon, for example, hated the Ivy League-educated eastern establishment ruling elites that he displaced.

randomdata 2y ago
Probably not, though, given that you couldn't find an example of envy and decided to randomly reach for hatred instead for some reason. Again, I suppose it has probably happened once, but is clearly not common enough to speak of (you literally were unable to speak of it).
- Apocryphon 2y ago
  Here, a House Representative questioning student loan relief announced in August 2022. Not framed as an issue of others paying for the debtors, but rather "what relief do those who already paid off their debt receive?" https://x.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1562461372851847168 https://x.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1562461372851847168 Senator Chuck Grassley: "For our government just to say ok your debt is completely forgiven.. it’s completely unfair" https://x.com/Acyn/status/1562530929838436355 https://x.com/Acyn/status/1562530929838436355 Reporter question during the announcement: "Mr. President, is this unfair to people who paid their student loans or chose not to take out loans?" https://www.c-span.org/video/?522478-1/president-biden-remarks-student-loan-debt-relief-plan https://www.c-span.org/video/?522478-1/president-biden-remar...
  - randomdata 2y ago
    Valid question. Given that they are assuming the debt, what relief are they getting to pass it off onto the next bag holder? Anyone assuming the debt would ask the same question.
    - Apocryphon 2y ago
      "I already paid off my student loans! Am I eligible for a refund and loan forgiveness? Yes, up to $20K — but only under these 2 specific conditions" https://finance.yahoo.com/news/already-paid-off-student-loans-100000238.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/already-paid-off-student-loan...
      - randomdata 2y ago
        You seem to be confusing a past loan with the new loan just taken on; a new loan those assuming it don't want to take on in the first place.
        Apocryphon 2y ago
        I am answering your question, plain and simple. You may not like the answer; that is your prerogative, as always.
        randomdata 2y ago
        No, you keep finding diversions to avoid answer the question. Let's face it: The question is unanswerable as there is no parallel and there never was. Your never ending quest to try and find that which does not exist is commendable, and hilarious, but to think that it is answering some kind of question is nonsensical.
        Apocryphon 2y ago
        Here's an example of someone who's paid off their debt, is unhappy at the prospect of others getting relief, but not complaining about being the one to have to pick up the tax bill in order to deliver that relief: > Student loan forgiveness rewards bad decision making I took out a $160,000 student load a decade ago I saved every penny I made to pay it back in full. I ended up paying over $300,000 on the loan Now I'm getting punished because I was too responsible and paid back my loan too quickly? I lived in a $500 a month rat and cockroach infested sun room in Boston for years to pay back this debt If I would have instead ignored my debt and bought cars and useless luxury items I'd get a free $300,000 check? I'm as a-political as it gets. I hate all politicians. But this is insanity and rewards the WORST behavior https://x.com/AlexFinnX/status/1793732427325620625 https://x.com/AlexFinnX/status/1793732427325620625 You seem to disbelieve such a narrative exists.