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> It crops up every time the issue is discussed online. On places like Twitter, at least. Only when it pertains to government forgiveness, because of the bag h
by randomdata 2y ago
> It crops up every time the issue is discussed online. On places like Twitter, at least.
Only when it pertains to government forgiveness, because of the bag holding problem.
Nobody cares when it is an unrelated entity that is willing to become the bag holder (e.g. parents). In fact, it has become almost expected that entities like parents will become the bag holders when it comes to college debt.
The bag holding problem is something quite different, not a parallel.
> "Why did I have to exercise when they could afford a bypass?"
So it crops up quite often, but only when it comes to weight loss-related matters?
- Apocryphon 2y ago> So it crops up quite often, but only when it comes to weight loss-related matters? Do you know what class envy is
- randomdata 2y agoI am familiar with the common use, but it speaks to people in a lower class envying those in a higher class. Here we have people in the same class, just with different paths to get there. So, you must have a pet definition? Regardless, I've never heard a "self-made" rich person complain "I had to work hard to get here. Why oh why wasn't I born rich like that Saudi prince?". They seem to only ever be proud that they were able to become rich. Again, I suppose it has probably happened once, but does not seem common enough to speak of.
- Apocryphon 2y agoIt might be more common in terms of political power rather than wealth. Nixon, for example, hated the Ivy League-educated eastern establishment ruling elites that he displaced.
- randomdata 2y agoProbably not, though, given that you couldn't find an example of envy and decided to randomly reach for hatred instead for some reason. Again, I suppose it has probably happened once, but is clearly not common enough to speak of (you literally were unable to speak of it).
- Apocryphon 2y agoHere, a House Representative questioning student loan relief announced in August 2022. Not framed as an issue of others paying for the debtors, but rather "what relief do those who already paid off their debt receive?" https://x.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1562461372851847168 https://x.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1562461372851847168 Senator Chuck Grassley: "For our government just to say ok your debt is completely forgiven.. it’s completely unfair" https://x.com/Acyn/status/1562530929838436355 https://x.com/Acyn/status/1562530929838436355 Reporter question during the announcement: "Mr. President, is this unfair to people who paid their student loans or chose not to take out loans?" https://www.c-span.org/video/?522478-1/president-biden-remarks-student-loan-debt-relief-plan https://www.c-span.org/video/?522478-1/president-biden-remar...
- randomdata 2y agoValid question. Given that they are assuming the debt, what relief are they getting to pass it off onto the next bag holder? Anyone assuming the debt would ask the same question.
- Apocryphon 2y ago"I already paid off my student loans! Am I eligible for a refund and loan forgiveness? Yes, up to $20K — but only under these 2 specific conditions" https://finance.yahoo.com/news/already-paid-off-student-loans-100000238.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/already-paid-off-student-loan...
- randomdata 2y agoYou seem to be confusing a past loan with the new loan just taken on; a new loan those assuming it don't want to take on in the first place.