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I know people who are slim and have roughly similar sentiment about the drug. Then again I also know people who'd happily deny stimulant medication to people w

I know people who are slim and have roughly similar sentiment about the drug. Then again I also know people who'd happily deny stimulant medication to people with ADHD, because "it's not fair". Crabs in a bucket, I'd say. It doesn't help that in general, our culture still operates on the assumption that being fat is one's own fault and entirely under control of an average person, except for "legitimate medical excuses" like type 1 diabetes, despite plenty of evidence to the contrary. We've made progress on getting rid of such notions in case of depression, autism and ADHD, so maybe we'll do that with obesity too, in some distant future. Until then, people on Ozempic will hear plenty of "that's not fair", and "if you were a better person, you wouldn't need this". EDIT: Maybe we'll get obesity to be seen more like smoking: something that's easy to walk into, but beyond average person's ability to walk out of without help.

andrewstuart 2y ago
>> I know people who are slim and have roughly similar sentiment about the drug. It reveals that for some trim people, their underlying feelings all along have been a sense of personal value and positivity around the fact that they are trim and others fat. They feel unhappy that other might be admitted to the trim club.
akira2501 2y ago
> I know people who are slim Do you know that they were _always_ slim? > Crabs in a bucket My attitude has nothing to do with your consumption. I have a negative opinion of the drug. I don't have a negative opinion of people who feel desperate enough to use it. I mean, turn your thinking around, why is being thin so important to them that they would take a very powerful class of drug just to achieve it? Why then would they waste a minute of their time afterwards being worried about external opinions of how they achieved it? What's actually important here? Their health and appearance or the opinions of their peers? Are they altering their appearance solely for the opinion of their peers? > and "if you were a better person, you wouldn't need this". I think you've accidentally encoded that precise understanding here.

andrewstuart 2y ago

>> I know people who are slim and have roughly similar sentiment about the drug. It reveals that for some trim people, their underlying feelings all along have been a sense of personal value and positivity around the fact that they are trim and others fat. They feel unhappy that other might be admitted to the trim club.

akira2501 2y ago

> I know people who are slim Do you know that they were _always_ slim? > Crabs in a bucket My attitude has nothing to do with your consumption. I have a negative opinion of the drug. I don't have a negative opinion of people who feel desperate enough to use it. I mean, turn your thinking around, why is being thin so important to them that they would take a very powerful class of drug just to achieve it? Why then would they waste a minute of their time afterwards being worried about external opinions of how they achieved it? What's actually important here? Their health and appearance or the opinions of their peers? Are they altering their appearance solely for the opinion of their peers? > and "if you were a better person, you wouldn't need this". I think you've accidentally encoded that precise understanding here.