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Here’s one for HN readers, you can now find jq in /usr/bin/ in Sequoia.

by krelas 2y ago

subjectsigma 2y ago
Whoa, you're right. How did you know? The developer notes only seem to talk about API changes
- krelas 2y ago
  I manage a lot of Macs, been beta testing since June.
andrelaszlo 2y ago
Is it the BSD jq from 1995? </s> Jk, thanks for the info! It's nice to know it's available on the system by default when writing scripts for my team.
- wpm 2y ago
  Nah just the last GPL2 licensed version from 2008 ope wait that's just bash
vbezhenar 2y ago
Now that's the real feature!
switch007 2y ago
$ jq '.[] | messages | .thank_you' < strings.json wait, maybe it's... $ jq '. | .messages.thank_you' < strings.json darn it! how about $ jq '[].messages.thank_you' < strings.json !??@@!
- LeoPanthera 2y ago
  Figuring out what garbage to type into jq is the best thing about ChatGPT.
  - benkuykendall 2y ago
    For some reason, I find it kinda funny you don't just ask the LLM to extract the values for you. Practically, your solution makes a lot of sense -- way fewer tokens, less likely to make weird one-off errors, can verify the response makes basic sense or re-use the code off-line or with sensitive data... But if I were watching Star Trek, they would definitely just ask the computer to grab the fields and it would be a done deal!
    - LeoPanthera 2y ago
      I'm rarely just using jq once. It's almost always going into a script, often where I only have placeholder data to test it with. Plus, you know, I actually learn how jq works and will need to ask the Magic Sky Oracle less often, in the future.
      - pxc 2y ago
        > Plus, you know, I actually learn how jq works What's wrong with the docs? Relatedly, do you actually look up every filter and argument used in your AI-generated sample code in the jq docs?
    - deleted 2y ago
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- gcr 2y ago
  jq's syntax is different, but well worth remembering. i have some flash cards if you'd like. a teensy amount of effort pays huge dividends with swiss knife software like this (and things like matplotlib, tar CLI options, etc)
throwitaway1123 2y ago
Wow, that might be the best part of the update. System Integrity Protection shields /usr, /bin, and /sbin, so I prefer to use the system provided executables in those directories when possible.
jxy 2y ago
interesting % /usr/bin/jq --version jq-1.6-159-apple-gcff5336-dirty
- shawn_w 2y ago
  1.6? Wonder why they went with an outdated version.
  - krelas 2y ago
    If you think this is bad then don’t check the version of bash it ships with.
- mdaniel 2y ago
  I can't know what "-dirty" implies, but https://github.com/jqlang/jq/commit/cff5336 https://github.com/jqlang/jq/commit/cff5336 is a pretty random commit from 2022 :-( https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/distribution-macOS/tree/rel/macOS-14 https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/distribution-macO... hasn't been updated with a "jq" directory yet
  - int_19h 2y ago
    "dirty" usually means that the commit doesn't correspond to any specific version tag in the repo (or whatever other mechanism is used to map commits to versions).
    - mdaniel 2y ago
      Incorrect: https://git-scm.com/docs/git-describe#Documentation/git-describe.txt---dirtyltmarkgt https://git-scm.com/docs/git-describe#Documentation/git-desc... > If the working tree has local modification "-dirty" is appended to it. and one can see their invocation of --dirty here: https://github.com/jqlang/jq/blob/cff5336ec71b6fee396a95bb0e4bea365e0cd1e8/configure.ac#L4 https://github.com/jqlang/jq/blob/cff5336ec71b6fee396a95bb0e...

Here’s one for HN readers, you can now find jq in /usr/bin/ in Sequoia.

by krelas 2y ago

Here’s one for HN readers, you can now find jq in /usr/bin/ in Sequoia.

subjectsigma 2y ago

Whoa, you're right. How did you know? The developer notes only seem to talk about API changes

krelas 2y ago
I manage a lot of Macs, been beta testing since June.

andrelaszlo 2y ago

Is it the BSD jq from 1995? </s> Jk, thanks for the info! It's nice to know it's available on the system by default when writing scripts for my team.

wpm 2y ago
Nah just the last GPL2 licensed version from 2008 ope wait that's just bash

vbezhenar 2y ago

Now that's the real feature!

switch007 2y ago

$ jq '.[] | messages | .thank_you' < strings.json wait, maybe it's... $ jq '. | .messages.thank_you' < strings.json darn it! how about $ jq '[].messages.thank_you' < strings.json !??@@!

LeoPanthera 2y ago
Figuring out what garbage to type into jq is the best thing about ChatGPT.
- benkuykendall 2y ago
  For some reason, I find it kinda funny you don't just ask the LLM to extract the values for you. Practically, your solution makes a lot of sense -- way fewer tokens, less likely to make weird one-off errors, can verify the response makes basic sense or re-use the code off-line or with sensitive data... But if I were watching Star Trek, they would definitely just ask the computer to grab the fields and it would be a done deal!
  - LeoPanthera 2y ago
    I'm rarely just using jq once. It's almost always going into a script, often where I only have placeholder data to test it with. Plus, you know, I actually learn how jq works and will need to ask the Magic Sky Oracle less often, in the future.
    - pxc 2y ago
      > Plus, you know, I actually learn how jq works What's wrong with the docs? Relatedly, do you actually look up every filter and argument used in your AI-generated sample code in the jq docs?
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
gcr 2y ago
jq's syntax is different, but well worth remembering. i have some flash cards if you'd like. a teensy amount of effort pays huge dividends with swiss knife software like this (and things like matplotlib, tar CLI options, etc)

throwitaway1123 2y ago

Wow, that might be the best part of the update. System Integrity Protection shields /usr, /bin, and /sbin, so I prefer to use the system provided executables in those directories when possible.

jxy 2y ago

interesting % /usr/bin/jq --version jq-1.6-159-apple-gcff5336-dirty

shawn_w 2y ago
1.6? Wonder why they went with an outdated version.
- krelas 2y ago
  If you think this is bad then don’t check the version of bash it ships with.
mdaniel 2y ago
I can't know what "-dirty" implies, but https://github.com/jqlang/jq/commit/cff5336 https://github.com/jqlang/jq/commit/cff5336 is a pretty random commit from 2022 :-( https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/distribution-macOS/tree/rel/macOS-14 https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/distribution-macO... hasn't been updated with a "jq" directory yet
- int_19h 2y ago
  "dirty" usually means that the commit doesn't correspond to any specific version tag in the repo (or whatever other mechanism is used to map commits to versions).
  - mdaniel 2y ago
    Incorrect: https://git-scm.com/docs/git-describe#Documentation/git-describe.txt---dirtyltmarkgt https://git-scm.com/docs/git-describe#Documentation/git-desc... > If the working tree has local modification "-dirty" is appended to it. and one can see their invocation of --dirty here: https://github.com/jqlang/jq/blob/cff5336ec71b6fee396a95bb0e4bea365e0cd1e8/configure.ac#L4 https://github.com/jqlang/jq/blob/cff5336ec71b6fee396a95bb0e...