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This isn't great news for Microsoft. All of their "flagship" products have a terrible reputation right now: Vista - not worth the upgrade (I use Vista on one m

by icey 18y ago

This isn't great news for Microsoft. All of their "flagship" products have a terrible reputation right now: Vista - not worth the upgrade (I use Vista on one machine and don't really see a big issue with it either way). Xbox 360 - Red ring of death problems Zune - Apparently hit by a date bug

jonursenbach 18y ago
Does the 360 really have a terrible reputation right now? I rarely hear about RRoD problems anymore in the sphere these days.
- chaostheory 18y ago
  I still like the 360 (games) over the wii and ps3, but console itself is still plagued with problems; most recently related to the latest xbox live update MS still seems to care more about meeting the shipping date than it does about quality
  - jonursenbach 18y ago
    If they cared about meeting the shipping date, Vista would have been way worse than it is.
- mattmaroon 18y ago
  The new units are a lot more reliable.
- mikeyur 18y ago
  I bought my unit on boxing day 2007, so just over a year now I've had my 360 and no RRoD problems so far knock on wood Out of all my 100+ friends on xbox live, I can only recall 2 having the problem (or at least telling people they had the problem). They had older units (early 2007 ish) and MS fixed it within a couple weeks - for another friend who had 2 faulty units they just gave him a new elite and apologized for his problems.
mattmaroon 18y ago
I wouldn't say the Xbox 360 has a terrible reputation. It's crushing the PS3 in unit sales, plus Xbox Live Arcade is monetizing like crazy. It does have quality issues (I'm on my 3rd) but Microsoft handles them so well, and the box is so great, that it doesn't seem to matter at all.
- icey 18y ago
  In terms of reliability, the Xbox 360 does have a terrible reputation. Everyone who owns any console knows what "RRoD" means - Can you tell me what the failure response for a PS3 or a Wii is? Reliability is not what most people look for when buying a console, so I don't think it hurts their sales terribly; but all of these problems cannot be good for Microsoft's bottom line. I'm on my second 360, and other than the terrible phone support, their RMA process is decent. But when I bought my 360 I knew that this might happen because of all the other reports of RRoD out in the wild.
  - arghnoname 18y ago
    But you bought one. Why is that? Everyone I know who knows about the RRoD issue buys one anyway. People who don't know don't seem to care about consoles. It's curious to me. I bought one too, and I knew about the issue. PS3 was too expensive for my blood and I prefer XBox games over Wii games. I also knew that MS wasn't being an ass with returns. Mine has held up so far though, so I don't know firsthand.
    - mattmaroon 18y ago
      They buy them because they're really an awesome console. Microsoft has been the leader in online connectivity since the original.
      - icey 18y ago
        This is exactly the answer. I wanted a gaming console, and the 360 is the one with all the games. I have a Wii as well, but it only gets turned on when my parents are over and want to bowl. Xbox live is pretty nice as well; I'm not a huge fan of the "New Xbox Experience", but I can appreciate that they've put a lot of effort into it.
lunchbox 18y ago
>All of their "flagship" products have a terrible reputation right now You're ignoring Office, SQL Server, Exchange, .NET, and SharePoint, among others. Your list of 3 "flagship" products is quite selective.
- icey 18y ago
  I should have said consumer products. I should have also included Internet Explorer on my list.

by icey 18y ago

jonursenbach 18y ago

Does the 360 really have a terrible reputation right now? I rarely hear about RRoD problems anymore in the sphere these days.

chaostheory 18y ago
I still like the 360 (games) over the wii and ps3, but console itself is still plagued with problems; most recently related to the latest xbox live update MS still seems to care more about meeting the shipping date than it does about quality
- jonursenbach 18y ago
  If they cared about meeting the shipping date, Vista would have been way worse than it is.
mattmaroon 18y ago
The new units are a lot more reliable.
mikeyur 18y ago
I bought my unit on boxing day 2007, so just over a year now I've had my 360 and no RRoD problems so far knock on wood Out of all my 100+ friends on xbox live, I can only recall 2 having the problem (or at least telling people they had the problem). They had older units (early 2007 ish) and MS fixed it within a couple weeks - for another friend who had 2 faulty units they just gave him a new elite and apologized for his problems.

mattmaroon 18y ago

I wouldn't say the Xbox 360 has a terrible reputation. It's crushing the PS3 in unit sales, plus Xbox Live Arcade is monetizing like crazy. It does have quality issues (I'm on my 3rd) but Microsoft handles them so well, and the box is so great, that it doesn't seem to matter at all.

icey 18y ago
In terms of reliability, the Xbox 360 does have a terrible reputation. Everyone who owns any console knows what "RRoD" means - Can you tell me what the failure response for a PS3 or a Wii is? Reliability is not what most people look for when buying a console, so I don't think it hurts their sales terribly; but all of these problems cannot be good for Microsoft's bottom line. I'm on my second 360, and other than the terrible phone support, their RMA process is decent. But when I bought my 360 I knew that this might happen because of all the other reports of RRoD out in the wild.
- arghnoname 18y ago
  But you bought one. Why is that? Everyone I know who knows about the RRoD issue buys one anyway. People who don't know don't seem to care about consoles. It's curious to me. I bought one too, and I knew about the issue. PS3 was too expensive for my blood and I prefer XBox games over Wii games. I also knew that MS wasn't being an ass with returns. Mine has held up so far though, so I don't know firsthand.
  - mattmaroon 18y ago
    They buy them because they're really an awesome console. Microsoft has been the leader in online connectivity since the original.
    - icey 18y ago
      This is exactly the answer. I wanted a gaming console, and the 360 is the one with all the games. I have a Wii as well, but it only gets turned on when my parents are over and want to bowl. Xbox live is pretty nice as well; I'm not a huge fan of the "New Xbox Experience", but I can appreciate that they've put a lot of effort into it.

lunchbox 18y ago

>All of their "flagship" products have a terrible reputation right now You're ignoring Office, SQL Server, Exchange, .NET, and SharePoint, among others. Your list of 3 "flagship" products is quite selective.

icey 18y ago
I should have said consumer products. I should have also included Internet Explorer on my list.