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It's just Safe for TV Squid games (not as the Series, the games itself). And it's not examination of psychology. It's just a silly competition to get more eyeba

by Ygg2 2y ago

It's just Safe for TV Squid games (not as the Series, the games itself). And it's not examination of psychology. It's just a silly competition to get more eyeballs. It's a drama written by YouTube influencers. It thrives on being "real" while having to do with reality as much as "reality tv". Which is to say, none at all.

ninetyninenine 2y ago
>And it's not examination of psychology. You put humans in extreme situations and you see how they react and you see what they do. It is an examination of psychology 100%. That's why people were interested in the original show because how humans behave in extreme situations is what a lot of people are interested in. >It's a drama written by YouTube influencers. It thrives on being "real" while having to do with reality as much as "reality tv". Which is to say, none at all. Possible. But then again you have no evidence to back that up that it's entirely fake. The leaked document doesn't mention anything about faking anything. You made this statement up out of thin air without presenting evidence. What's your evidence that Mr. Beasts videos don't have any psychology and are all fake?
- Ygg2 2y ago
  > You put humans in extreme situations and you see how they react and you see what they do That's not psychology. That's torture for dubious gains. By that stretch of imagination, you can construe any gulag or concentration camp as an examination of psychology. Psychology would require a double-blind experiment, some kind of control group, etc. > Possible. But then again you have no evidence to back that up that it's entirely fake. https://www.uniladtech.com/social-media/youtube/mrbeast-responds-allegations-faked-video-343161-20240429 https://www.uniladtech.com/social-media/youtube/mrbeast-resp... He already faked videos before. Most of how reality TV works is by live editing to create narratives and guiding players along what the audience wants to see. It's lies by omission and exaggeration. > The leaked document doesn't mention anything about faking anything. Well, of course the official manual isn't going to spell it out, that's stuff that's admissible in court. But learn to read between the lines. No CEO is going to tell his employees, lie, cheat and steal to get our taxes to appear as low as possible, and our revenue as high as possible. They will say: "Be a go getter. Get those KPIs in the green. Only you can make a difference! Make me proud! Etc." That said, the leaked production document is alarming even by these standards. "NO DOES NOT MEAN NO" stands head and shoulders above the rest in its implication, even if it didn't sound like a rapist's mantra.
  - ninetyninenine 2y ago
    >That's not psychology. That's torture for dubious gains. No. Examining all human behavior under all circumstances is psychology. EVEN torture. Even so. You call it torture and that's way over the top and offensive because what's happening here is NOT torture. These people are there voluntarily and are experiencing NOTHING even close to torture. I have family members who were in concentration camps so I know this. >He already faked videos before. Should've presented this first. I find it quite likely he faked some videos and others aren't fake. >Well, of course the official manual isn't going to spell it out, that's stuff that's admissible in court. But learn to read between the lines. I mentioned the manual because you didn't bring ANY evidence to the table. The only other official document on the table was the original article and I said IT had no evidence. There is no reading between the lines. Present evidence. Your link here: https://www.uniladtech.com/social-media/youtube/mrbeast-resp https://www.uniladtech.com/social-media/youtube/mrbeast-resp... is good. But again it doesn't mean his whole operation is fake. AND this link is a mild and weak accusation at best that the abandoned city is near a popular beach or can't be reached by car. I happened to watch this video and he never mentioned it was completely remote like that. Those accusations are like saying yosemite isn't the wilderness because buses and shuttles drive around inside of the park. >rapist's mantra. Rapist? You're over the top describing things like this. Rape is a crime. What Mr. Beast does as bad as you think it is, is nowhere even close to rape.
    - Ygg2 2y ago
      > No. Examining all human behavior under all circumstances is psychology. EVEN torture. Psychology is a science. Or at least tries to be. What you describe is sadism. > Should've presented this first. You should have investigated Mr. Beast a bit better before coming into this discussion. > There is no reading between the lines. Present evidence. Have you ever worked in a corporate environment? Honest question. Because I did, and such behavior is standard practice. Never write anything that's incriminating, only discuss in private. Hell, just read about Google and how engineers were told to not use the M(arket) -word in any written communication. https://themarkup.org/google-the-giant/2020/08/07/google-documents-show-taboo-words-antitrust https://themarkup.org/google-the-giant/2020/08/07/google-doc... > Rapist? Whatever this guy is, he's not a rapist. Your language is way over the top. Step 1. Please read what I said. Step 2. Don't add words to my sentences. I said SOUNDS LIKE a rapist's mantra. "No means no" is the female anti-rape slogan. What do you get when you negate an anti-rape mantra? A rapist's mantra. ----- That aside, the 'No doesn't mean No' part sounds absolutely Machiavellian for a guidebook for new employees.

by Ygg2 2y ago

ninetyninenine 2y ago

>And it's not examination of psychology. You put humans in extreme situations and you see how they react and you see what they do. It is an examination of psychology 100%. That's why people were interested in the original show because how humans behave in extreme situations is what a lot of people are interested in. >It's a drama written by YouTube influencers. It thrives on being "real" while having to do with reality as much as "reality tv". Which is to say, none at all. Possible. But then again you have no evidence to back that up that it's entirely fake. The leaked document doesn't mention anything about faking anything. You made this statement up out of thin air without presenting evidence. What's your evidence that Mr. Beasts videos don't have any psychology and are all fake?

Ygg2 2y ago
> You put humans in extreme situations and you see how they react and you see what they do That's not psychology. That's torture for dubious gains. By that stretch of imagination, you can construe any gulag or concentration camp as an examination of psychology. Psychology would require a double-blind experiment, some kind of control group, etc. > Possible. But then again you have no evidence to back that up that it's entirely fake. https://www.uniladtech.com/social-media/youtube/mrbeast-responds-allegations-faked-video-343161-20240429 https://www.uniladtech.com/social-media/youtube/mrbeast-resp... He already faked videos before. Most of how reality TV works is by live editing to create narratives and guiding players along what the audience wants to see. It's lies by omission and exaggeration. > The leaked document doesn't mention anything about faking anything. Well, of course the official manual isn't going to spell it out, that's stuff that's admissible in court. But learn to read between the lines. No CEO is going to tell his employees, lie, cheat and steal to get our taxes to appear as low as possible, and our revenue as high as possible. They will say: "Be a go getter. Get those KPIs in the green. Only you can make a difference! Make me proud! Etc." That said, the leaked production document is alarming even by these standards. "NO DOES NOT MEAN NO" stands head and shoulders above the rest in its implication, even if it didn't sound like a rapist's mantra.
- ninetyninenine 2y ago
  >That's not psychology. That's torture for dubious gains. No. Examining all human behavior under all circumstances is psychology. EVEN torture. Even so. You call it torture and that's way over the top and offensive because what's happening here is NOT torture. These people are there voluntarily and are experiencing NOTHING even close to torture. I have family members who were in concentration camps so I know this. >He already faked videos before. Should've presented this first. I find it quite likely he faked some videos and others aren't fake. >Well, of course the official manual isn't going to spell it out, that's stuff that's admissible in court. But learn to read between the lines. I mentioned the manual because you didn't bring ANY evidence to the table. The only other official document on the table was the original article and I said IT had no evidence. There is no reading between the lines. Present evidence. Your link here: https://www.uniladtech.com/social-media/youtube/mrbeast-resp https://www.uniladtech.com/social-media/youtube/mrbeast-resp... is good. But again it doesn't mean his whole operation is fake. AND this link is a mild and weak accusation at best that the abandoned city is near a popular beach or can't be reached by car. I happened to watch this video and he never mentioned it was completely remote like that. Those accusations are like saying yosemite isn't the wilderness because buses and shuttles drive around inside of the park. >rapist's mantra. Rapist? You're over the top describing things like this. Rape is a crime. What Mr. Beast does as bad as you think it is, is nowhere even close to rape.
  - Ygg2 2y ago
    > No. Examining all human behavior under all circumstances is psychology. EVEN torture. Psychology is a science. Or at least tries to be. What you describe is sadism. > Should've presented this first. You should have investigated Mr. Beast a bit better before coming into this discussion. > There is no reading between the lines. Present evidence. Have you ever worked in a corporate environment? Honest question. Because I did, and such behavior is standard practice. Never write anything that's incriminating, only discuss in private. Hell, just read about Google and how engineers were told to not use the M(arket) -word in any written communication. https://themarkup.org/google-the-giant/2020/08/07/google-documents-show-taboo-words-antitrust https://themarkup.org/google-the-giant/2020/08/07/google-doc... > Rapist? Whatever this guy is, he's not a rapist. Your language is way over the top. Step 1. Please read what I said. Step 2. Don't add words to my sentences. I said SOUNDS LIKE a rapist's mantra. "No means no" is the female anti-rape slogan. What do you get when you negate an anti-rape mantra? A rapist's mantra. ----- That aside, the 'No doesn't mean No' part sounds absolutely Machiavellian for a guidebook for new employees.