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If you're curious what this means... years ago, Firefox took forever to hit 3.6, and the decision was made (mirroring Chrome) that releases would switch from "r

If you're curious what this means... years ago, Firefox took forever to hit 3.6, and the decision was made (mirroring Chrome) that releases would switch from "release when everything is done" to "the trains always run on time", where the release would go out at a predetermined time and anything that was ready would make it. Mozilla also has a habit of simple question-based domains, such as "arewefastyet.com", for tracking progress.

culi 2y ago
Here's a list of sites. The Rust community has also (by extension) adopted the snowclone (e.g. arewegameyet.rs) https://wiki.mozilla.org/Areweyet https://wiki.mozilla.org/Areweyet
- slightwinder 2y ago
  Do they get a massive discount on domain, or why are they so wasteful with them?
  - tricked 2y ago
    I'm pretty sure this is just a list not necessarily owned by Mozilla.
  - gkoberger 2y ago
    They aren’t all official necessarily; lots of people at the company or community members make them.
  - culi 2y ago
    A highly specific domain like this is what? $12 a year?
joebig 2y ago
Thanks. Also makes it easy to browse between releases to check dev notes and in general 'What's new'.
kirk782 2y ago
Was it done because Mozilla thought that Chrome's increasing version numbers would make ordinary people think that Chrome was ahead of Firefox ?
- zamadatix 2y ago
  It's definitely a common thought but there are other considerations too regardless if that's really true or not e.g. browsers needed constant security updates anyways, no reason to not also regularly deliver features that were sitting ready to be used with that update infrastructure.
  - sdk- 2y ago
    It's easier to do small releases often. You have less chances to break multiple parts of the application. You also don't end up in a cycle of "Wait! I'll add just one more thing" which is very common with projects tend to less often.
- _ZeD_ 2y ago
  Like what happened with Slackware 7
- eholk 2y ago
  This was back when Internet Explorer was at version 7. Some Mozilla folks told me they used to get questions like "when are you going to upgrade to Internet 7 like Microsoft?" If I remember right, after Firefox 4 they skipped a few versions and started the train model, while also trying to de-emphasize the version number in marketing.
- abhinavk 2y ago
  Microsoft thought the same for naming their 2nd Xbox the Xbox 360.
  - bee_rider 2y ago
    So revolutionary. They took the Xbox strategy, totally flipped it on its head. Then they flipped it again.
thrdbndndn 2y ago
Not that matters, but "what xxx" question really doesn't have the same vibe as "are we xxx yet" ones.
glandium 2y ago
You're thinking about Firefox 4.
- gkoberger 2y ago
  You’re right! It was 3.6 -> 4 took forever.
graetzer 2y ago
The numbers reported on arewefastyet.com seem to stop at July 15th though
lloydatkinson 2y ago
Why is that site so poorly designed? I tried in both FF and Chrome. In FF I see nothing on any chart. On Chrome, I see a few data points in July and then nothing else.
- qwertox 2y ago
  I had to switch to "Platform: Windows 11 64bit"

culi 2y ago

Here's a list of sites. The Rust community has also (by extension) adopted the snowclone (e.g. arewegameyet.rs) https://wiki.mozilla.org/Areweyet https://wiki.mozilla.org/Areweyet

slightwinder 2y ago
Do they get a massive discount on domain, or why are they so wasteful with them?
- tricked 2y ago
  I'm pretty sure this is just a list not necessarily owned by Mozilla.
- gkoberger 2y ago
  They aren’t all official necessarily; lots of people at the company or community members make them.
- culi 2y ago
  A highly specific domain like this is what? $12 a year?

joebig 2y ago

Thanks. Also makes it easy to browse between releases to check dev notes and in general 'What's new'.

kirk782 2y ago

Was it done because Mozilla thought that Chrome's increasing version numbers would make ordinary people think that Chrome was ahead of Firefox ?

zamadatix 2y ago
It's definitely a common thought but there are other considerations too regardless if that's really true or not e.g. browsers needed constant security updates anyways, no reason to not also regularly deliver features that were sitting ready to be used with that update infrastructure.
- sdk- 2y ago
  It's easier to do small releases often. You have less chances to break multiple parts of the application. You also don't end up in a cycle of "Wait! I'll add just one more thing" which is very common with projects tend to less often.
_ZeD_ 2y ago
Like what happened with Slackware 7
eholk 2y ago
This was back when Internet Explorer was at version 7. Some Mozilla folks told me they used to get questions like "when are you going to upgrade to Internet 7 like Microsoft?" If I remember right, after Firefox 4 they skipped a few versions and started the train model, while also trying to de-emphasize the version number in marketing.
abhinavk 2y ago
Microsoft thought the same for naming their 2nd Xbox the Xbox 360.
- bee_rider 2y ago
  So revolutionary. They took the Xbox strategy, totally flipped it on its head. Then they flipped it again.

thrdbndndn 2y ago

Not that matters, but "what xxx" question really doesn't have the same vibe as "are we xxx yet" ones.

glandium 2y ago

You're thinking about Firefox 4.

gkoberger 2y ago
You’re right! It was 3.6 -> 4 took forever.

graetzer 2y ago

The numbers reported on arewefastyet.com seem to stop at July 15th though

lloydatkinson 2y ago

Why is that site so poorly designed? I tried in both FF and Chrome. In FF I see nothing on any chart. On Chrome, I see a few data points in July and then nothing else.

qwertox 2y ago
I had to switch to "Platform: Windows 11 64bit"