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That's the thing. You have to love that, and that's probably something only people who grew up watching YouTube can feel at a deep level. Generational divides h

That's the thing. You have to love that, and that's probably something only people who grew up watching YouTube can feel at a deep level. Generational divides happen like that often.

Loughla 2y ago
Bingo. I do not understand the attraction of nearly all YouTube creators and celebrities. I don't get the appeal. All the videos sound the same and have the same stupid looking tag lines to get you to watch them. Outrageous actions for attention are deeply troubling to me. And I'm also SUPER aware that it's because it's not for me. I'm not the target demographic at all, and never will be. At some point you have to realize that the world moves on, and that's just part of getting older. It feels awesome when you're 18-24 and everything is relevant to you. It feels way less awesome when you're over 40 and everything seems to be out of control.
- sixothree 2y ago
  Honestly it sounds like a deficiency on your part and that you need to explore some. Because I follow a lot of smart, talented, nerdy, and interesting creators. And my feed is nothing like what you described.
  - pests 2y ago
    When ever someone describes me what their feed is full of or taken over with, they are secretly telling me what type of bubble they are in and what type of content they actually consume.
  - brokenmachine 2y ago
    I'm also ruthless with the "not interested" and "don't recommend channel".
- scyzoryk_xyz 2y ago
  Well, one could argue that when you’re over 40 a lot more is actually directed at you because that’s when you’ve got the most money to spend. Cars, properties, services, vacations, kids etc. Everything might start to seem to be out of control, but major products finally start to seem to hit the right spot for your taste and promise that control in some sense.
- noizejoy 2y ago
  YT has RSS feeds for every channel. So I’ve switched to using RSS to follow the specific niche creators that add value for me. As a result, my YT experience is entirely unlike what the YT algorithm suggests.
  - walthamstow 2y ago
    Similarly, I use Ublock Origin to remove basically every element of the site except the search bar, subscriptions and the video player itself.
    - duskwuff 2y ago
      There's also some YouTube-specific extensions like SponsorBlock and DeArrow [1] which specialize in removing distractions from YouTube content - not just the UI. [1]: https://sponsor.ajay.app/ https://sponsor.ajay.app/ ; https://dearrow.ajay.app/ https://dearrow.ajay.app/
  - brokenmachine 2y ago
    Isn't this basically the same as only using your subscription page, and not the main youtube startpage?
    - noizejoy 2y ago
      Close, but not quite the same, since I don't even need a YT account or subscription page. My official YT subscriptions are now just a subset, mostly as a mechanism to give small channels a little algorithm boost.
  - saintradon 2y ago
    Did not know this! Going to be checking this out, thank you.
- ninetyninenine 2y ago
  YouTube caters to every niche. Including the more snobbish demographic who “claims” they don’t understand the appeal of YouTube videos (aka don’t understand humans and entertainment in general) Check out stuff by Johnny Harris , veritasium, etc… for more educational stuff. Also I didn’t like the ageism comment. I’m about your age and I can definitely understand the appeal of Mr. Beast. I feel a lot of the disdain for him is more snobbery than anything. Some people think they’re better or too good for that type of entertainment. If you truly don’t understand the appeal I think that’s actually a sign of autism. It’s unlikely you’re autistic and it’s more likely to be snobbery disguised as lack of understanding. Entertainment is usually mindless anyway. It’s not like Shakespeare is some higher form of entertainment. It’s all snobbery that segregates these things. Transformers has more technical complexity and represents a bigger human achievement then Shakespeare. The technical know how of thousands of people utilizing technology decades in development combined together to achieve the transformers movie to tell a story with more clarity then the equally cliche story of Romeo and Juliet. It’s all mindless entertainment and class based prejudice.
  - coupdejarnac 2y ago
    Johnny Harris makes well produced videos that contain a lot of old information and misinformation. If any of his videos cover a topic you're an expert in, you'll see immediately.
    - ninetyninenine 2y ago
      Then choose some other educational channel in which there are thousands.
      - coupdejarnac 2y ago
        Just putting it out there for people who care about the quality of information they consume.
    - teddyh 2y ago
      I also often see the same said about Veritasium.
- forrestthewoods 2y ago
  I’m 39 and thoroughly enjoy MrBeast videos. They’re clever and fun and exciting. Pretty amazing a lot of the things that only he can pull off. And he’s been pulling off impressive stunts for years. He’s incredibly well capitalized at this point, but he grinded there and has been doing novel videos from the start.
  - paulryanrogers 2y ago
    By broad definitions of "pull off", if the accusations of faking things and changing rules are to be believed.
    - forrestthewoods 2y ago
      > if the accusations of faking things and changing rules are to be believed. The evidence behind the accusations is sooooo bad.
      - paulryanrogers 2y ago
        How so?
- oulipo 2y ago
  the point is not the "taste" as in "I like Taylor Swift" / "I like nine inch nail" / "I like bethoveen" The point here is the finality: pure waste of resources
oulipo 2y ago
it's not a question of "you have to love that", that can be said for anything it's a question of "grow up and look at reality for what it is" we're on a planet with limited resources that we have to preserve and we're celebrating people doing shit videos like "I spent 24h in Ketchup" as "big successes" to be emulated ?

That's the thing. You have to love that, and that's probably something only people who grew up watching YouTube can feel at a deep level. Generational divides happen like that often.

Loughla 2y ago

Bingo. I do not understand the attraction of nearly all YouTube creators and celebrities. I don't get the appeal. All the videos sound the same and have the same stupid looking tag lines to get you to watch them. Outrageous actions for attention are deeply troubling to me. And I'm also SUPER aware that it's because it's not for me. I'm not the target demographic at all, and never will be. At some point you have to realize that the world moves on, and that's just part of getting older. It feels awesome when you're 18-24 and everything is relevant to you. It feels way less awesome when you're over 40 and everything seems to be out of control.

sixothree 2y ago
Honestly it sounds like a deficiency on your part and that you need to explore some. Because I follow a lot of smart, talented, nerdy, and interesting creators. And my feed is nothing like what you described.
- pests 2y ago
  When ever someone describes me what their feed is full of or taken over with, they are secretly telling me what type of bubble they are in and what type of content they actually consume.
- brokenmachine 2y ago
  I'm also ruthless with the "not interested" and "don't recommend channel".
scyzoryk_xyz 2y ago
Well, one could argue that when you’re over 40 a lot more is actually directed at you because that’s when you’ve got the most money to spend. Cars, properties, services, vacations, kids etc. Everything might start to seem to be out of control, but major products finally start to seem to hit the right spot for your taste and promise that control in some sense.
noizejoy 2y ago
YT has RSS feeds for every channel. So I’ve switched to using RSS to follow the specific niche creators that add value for me. As a result, my YT experience is entirely unlike what the YT algorithm suggests.
- walthamstow 2y ago
  Similarly, I use Ublock Origin to remove basically every element of the site except the search bar, subscriptions and the video player itself.
  - duskwuff 2y ago
    There's also some YouTube-specific extensions like SponsorBlock and DeArrow [1] which specialize in removing distractions from YouTube content - not just the UI. [1]: https://sponsor.ajay.app/ https://sponsor.ajay.app/ ; https://dearrow.ajay.app/ https://dearrow.ajay.app/
- brokenmachine 2y ago
  Isn't this basically the same as only using your subscription page, and not the main youtube startpage?
  - noizejoy 2y ago
    Close, but not quite the same, since I don't even need a YT account or subscription page. My official YT subscriptions are now just a subset, mostly as a mechanism to give small channels a little algorithm boost.
- saintradon 2y ago
  Did not know this! Going to be checking this out, thank you.
ninetyninenine 2y ago
YouTube caters to every niche. Including the more snobbish demographic who “claims” they don’t understand the appeal of YouTube videos (aka don’t understand humans and entertainment in general) Check out stuff by Johnny Harris , veritasium, etc… for more educational stuff. Also I didn’t like the ageism comment. I’m about your age and I can definitely understand the appeal of Mr. Beast. I feel a lot of the disdain for him is more snobbery than anything. Some people think they’re better or too good for that type of entertainment. If you truly don’t understand the appeal I think that’s actually a sign of autism. It’s unlikely you’re autistic and it’s more likely to be snobbery disguised as lack of understanding. Entertainment is usually mindless anyway. It’s not like Shakespeare is some higher form of entertainment. It’s all snobbery that segregates these things. Transformers has more technical complexity and represents a bigger human achievement then Shakespeare. The technical know how of thousands of people utilizing technology decades in development combined together to achieve the transformers movie to tell a story with more clarity then the equally cliche story of Romeo and Juliet. It’s all mindless entertainment and class based prejudice.
- coupdejarnac 2y ago
  Johnny Harris makes well produced videos that contain a lot of old information and misinformation. If any of his videos cover a topic you're an expert in, you'll see immediately.
  - ninetyninenine 2y ago
    Then choose some other educational channel in which there are thousands.
    - coupdejarnac 2y ago
      Just putting it out there for people who care about the quality of information they consume.
  - teddyh 2y ago
    I also often see the same said about Veritasium.
forrestthewoods 2y ago
I’m 39 and thoroughly enjoy MrBeast videos. They’re clever and fun and exciting. Pretty amazing a lot of the things that only he can pull off. And he’s been pulling off impressive stunts for years. He’s incredibly well capitalized at this point, but he grinded there and has been doing novel videos from the start.
- paulryanrogers 2y ago
  By broad definitions of "pull off", if the accusations of faking things and changing rules are to be believed.
  - forrestthewoods 2y ago
    > if the accusations of faking things and changing rules are to be believed. The evidence behind the accusations is sooooo bad.
    - paulryanrogers 2y ago
      How so?
oulipo 2y ago
the point is not the "taste" as in "I like Taylor Swift" / "I like nine inch nail" / "I like bethoveen" The point here is the finality: pure waste of resources

oulipo 2y ago

it's not a question of "you have to love that", that can be said for anything it's a question of "grow up and look at reality for what it is" we're on a planet with limited resources that we have to preserve and we're celebrating people doing shit videos like "I spent 24h in Ketchup" as "big successes" to be emulated ?