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I wanted to comment that any country has something about freedom of speech in their constitution, the problem is usually that the government doesn't respect its

I wanted to comment that any country has something about freedom of speech in their constitution, the problem is usually that the government doesn't respect its own law. But when I went to compare american and russian constitutions and if you only judge the text, the us is worded better. In russian it's simply "freedom of speech is guaranteed to anyone" while in the us it's more specific about not creating new laws harming freedom of speech.

walterbell 2y ago
> not creating new laws harming freedom of speech Tests are helpful, when writing rules. US freedom of speech has been influenced by law on asymmetry of economic resources in groups vs. individuals [2010], allowing state propaganda in domestic media [2012], and gov-corp coordination of social media moderation [2024]. [2010]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_(organization) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_(organization) [2012]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%E2%80%93Mundt_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%E2%80%93Mundt_Act [2024]https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/justices-side-with-biden-over-governments-influence-on-social-media-content-moderation/ https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/justices-side-with-biden-...
amy-petrik-214 2y ago
It was once said by a famous african dictator: “There is freedom of speech, but I cannot guarantee freedom after speech.” ― Forest Whitaker So maybe it is like this. It's a funny thing to say, because in this mindset there is freedom literally to do anything. Consequences come after, minutes, hours, days, years, but after and not before, at least not until OpenAI-Google's new "PrescientCrimeCAItcher" comes online. These "community guidelines" are quite frustrating because a major communication modality presently does not have freedom of speech, it has removal of speech it does not like. So that's an interesting loophole legalese-wise. Presently these are private sector companies running addicting entertaining boards from which they serve ads for profit. If these are instead made to be "utilities" like power or water, utilities of communication, I would imagine the calculus would change

walterbell 2y ago

> not creating new laws harming freedom of speech Tests are helpful, when writing rules. US freedom of speech has been influenced by law on asymmetry of economic resources in groups vs. individuals [2010], allowing state propaganda in domestic media [2012], and gov-corp coordination of social media moderation [2024]. [2010]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_(organization) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_(organization) [2012]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%E2%80%93Mundt_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%E2%80%93Mundt_Act [2024]https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/justices-side-with-biden-over-governments-influence-on-social-media-content-moderation/ https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/justices-side-with-biden-...

amy-petrik-214 2y ago

It was once said by a famous african dictator: “There is freedom of speech, but I cannot guarantee freedom after speech.” ― Forest Whitaker So maybe it is like this. It's a funny thing to say, because in this mindset there is freedom literally to do anything. Consequences come after, minutes, hours, days, years, but after and not before, at least not until OpenAI-Google's new "PrescientCrimeCAItcher" comes online. These "community guidelines" are quite frustrating because a major communication modality presently does not have freedom of speech, it has removal of speech it does not like. So that's an interesting loophole legalese-wise. Presently these are private sector companies running addicting entertaining boards from which they serve ads for profit. If these are instead made to be "utilities" like power or water, utilities of communication, I would imagine the calculus would change