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People on HN have repeatedly stated that Google is "stealing their content" from their websites so it seems like this is a natural extension to that widespread

by izacus 2y ago

People on HN have repeatedly stated that Google is "stealing their content" from their websites so it seems like this is a natural extension to that widespread opinion. Isn't this the web we want? One where big corporations don't steal our websites? Right?

meiraleal 2y ago
People on HN will always find a way to see a good side from Google's terrible product and engineering
- izacus 2y ago
  Which is great that there's one less of their products, it's terrible anyway.
ysofunny 2y ago
ownership over websites does not work the way people expect nor want I'm tired of saying this, yelling at clouds
dspillett 2y ago
> People on HN have repeatedly stated It is definitely an area where there is no single "people of HN" - opinion varies widely and is often more nuanced than a binary for/against⁰ matter. From an end user PoV it is (was) a very useful feature, one that kept me using Google by default¹, and I think that many like me used it as a backup when content was down at source. The key problem with giving access to cached copies like this is when it effectively becomes the default view, holding users in the search providers garden instead of the content provider being particularly acknowledged never mind visited and the search service making money from that through adverts and related stalking. I have sympathy for honest sites when their content is used this way, though those that give search engines full text but paywall most of it when I look who complain about the search engine showing fuller text, can do one. Also those who do the "turn off your stalker blocker or well not show you anything" thing. ---- [0] Or ternary for/indifferent/against one. [1] I'm now finally moving away, currently experimenting with Kagi, as a number of little things that kept me there are no longer true and more and more irritations² keep appearing. [2] Like most of the first screen full of a result being adverts and an AI summary that I don't want, just give me the relevant links please…
immibis 2y ago
Cached was only a fallback option when the original site was broken. When the original site works, nearly everyone clicks on it.

by izacus 2y ago

meiraleal 2y ago

People on HN will always find a way to see a good side from Google's terrible product and engineering

izacus 2y ago
Which is great that there's one less of their products, it's terrible anyway.

ysofunny 2y ago

ownership over websites does not work the way people expect nor want I'm tired of saying this, yelling at clouds

dspillett 2y ago

> People on HN have repeatedly stated It is definitely an area where there is no single "people of HN" - opinion varies widely and is often more nuanced than a binary for/against⁰ matter. From an end user PoV it is (was) a very useful feature, one that kept me using Google by default¹, and I think that many like me used it as a backup when content was down at source. The key problem with giving access to cached copies like this is when it effectively becomes the default view, holding users in the search providers garden instead of the content provider being particularly acknowledged never mind visited and the search service making money from that through adverts and related stalking. I have sympathy for honest sites when their content is used this way, though those that give search engines full text but paywall most of it when I look who complain about the search engine showing fuller text, can do one. Also those who do the "turn off your stalker blocker or well not show you anything" thing. ---- [0] Or ternary for/indifferent/against one. [1] I'm now finally moving away, currently experimenting with Kagi, as a number of little things that kept me there are no longer true and more and more irritations² keep appearing. [2] Like most of the first screen full of a result being adverts and an AI summary that I don't want, just give me the relevant links please…

immibis 2y ago

Cached was only a fallback option when the original site was broken. When the original site works, nearly everyone clicks on it.