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churchill 2y ago
Funny thing about American meddling is that it always comes back to bite the US in the ass. The War of Terror has cost $8 trillion and there's nothing tangible and lasting the US has to show for it. Groups like Al Qaeda, ISIS (esp. their networks across Libya, Iraq, etc.) are offshoots of American meddling in the region, growing healthily despite everything. Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iran (now a rabid enemy), Iraq, Syria, and Libya, are all failures of that World Police ethos that the US refuses to disengage from.
- tazu 2y ago
  The American way is creating problems and selling solutions.
  - churchill 2y ago
    They're not really selling solutions if it still costs them at the end. For the most part, US foreign policy is a net negative for America's pockets and many of their "allies."
    - csomar 2y ago
      They are a sophisticated money siphoning program. Socialize the cost of war (taxes), but privatize the gains (corporate profit).
    - tazu 2y ago
      There is no cost, overall it all raises US GDP. Military lives are not considered.
      - churchill 2y ago
        Digging a hole and covering it at a cost of $22 trillion will double America's GDP overnight. But it doesn't create value for anyone. All it does is transfer money to the contractor doing the digging (in America's case, the military-industrial complex) while everyone else becomes poorer. $8 trillion has been spent on the War on Terror so far. Like I said in another comment, that's enough money to build 80 million $100k homes, or reduce America's debt by 25%, or pay off all student loans, or build 400,000 KM of high-speed rail at $20M/km, or give every American taxpayer a one-time check of $48k, etc. Every bomb dropped on Afghanistan or Iraq was money diverted from something else useful the US could have done.
- ClumsyPilot 2y ago
  > it always comes back to bite the US in the ass Does it? So far millions of traumatised and in various ways challenging to deal with refugees are in Europe.
- justinclift 2y ago
  Hey, it's not all bad. We all got a movie out of it. ;) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372588/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372588/
  - churchill 2y ago
    Now that you put it that way :)

Funny thing about American meddling is that it always comes back to bite the US in the ass. The War of Terror has cost $8 trillion and there's nothing tangible and lasting the US has to show for it. Groups like Al Qaeda, ISIS (esp. their networks across Libya, Iraq, etc.) are offshoots of American meddling in the region, growing healthily despite everything. Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iran (now a rabid enemy), Iraq, Syria, and Libya, are all failures of that World Police ethos that the US refuses to disengage from.

tazu 2y ago
The American way is creating problems and selling solutions.
- churchill 2y ago
  They're not really selling solutions if it still costs them at the end. For the most part, US foreign policy is a net negative for America's pockets and many of their "allies."
  - csomar 2y ago
    They are a sophisticated money siphoning program. Socialize the cost of war (taxes), but privatize the gains (corporate profit).
  - tazu 2y ago
    There is no cost, overall it all raises US GDP. Military lives are not considered.
    - churchill 2y ago
      Digging a hole and covering it at a cost of $22 trillion will double America's GDP overnight. But it doesn't create value for anyone. All it does is transfer money to the contractor doing the digging (in America's case, the military-industrial complex) while everyone else becomes poorer. $8 trillion has been spent on the War on Terror so far. Like I said in another comment, that's enough money to build 80 million $100k homes, or reduce America's debt by 25%, or pay off all student loans, or build 400,000 KM of high-speed rail at $20M/km, or give every American taxpayer a one-time check of $48k, etc. Every bomb dropped on Afghanistan or Iraq was money diverted from something else useful the US could have done.
ClumsyPilot 2y ago
> it always comes back to bite the US in the ass Does it? So far millions of traumatised and in various ways challenging to deal with refugees are in Europe.
justinclift 2y ago
Hey, it's not all bad. We all got a movie out of it. ;) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372588/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372588/
- churchill 2y ago
  Now that you put it that way :)