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Only an American would ever entertain this idea without being at least a bit tongue in cheek about it. The US doesn’t own the Internet.
by appendix-rock 2y ago
Only an American would ever entertain this idea without being at least a bit tongue in cheek about it. The US doesn’t own the Internet.
- immibis 2y ago[flagged]
- bboygravity 2y agoYeah, except not really. You might want to have a look at the political history of Iran. lol
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- gorgoiler 2y agoOut of interest I looked up who controls the DNS root servers: Europe (2): RIPE and Netnod AB. RIPE is Europe’s RIR, run as a conference by European ISPs. Netnod is a Swedish ISP. Asia (1): Project WIDE, part of the Tokyo Institute of Technology. US (9): Verisign, Cogent, NASA, US Department of Defense, US Army, the University of Maryland, ISC (as in the Bind9 people), ICANN itself, and the University of Southern California. The last two seem to have some overlap and there is probably a lot of overlap between all of these organisations. Verisign runs two root servers which is why the list has twelve entries but the root servers run from A to M.
- a_dabbler 2y agoDNS != The internet. You can still use the internet without access to the DNS root servers
- seydor 2y agoYou could also run the internet on smoke signals but nobody does it
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- a_dabbler 2y agoIf you think losing DNS root servers means that NK would have to use smoke signals then I think you don't understand how the internet works frankly. If you blocked your own computers access to the DNS root servers right now you probably wouldn't even notice the difference
- jnordwick 2y agosmoke signals is a non-standard extension. however over avian carrier has its own rfc and is entirely legit: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2549.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2549.html
- c0balt 2y ago+1, One cab likely also presume that especially DNS at the root level is already handled locally for NK. They reportedly have their own intranet so presumably they also have common services like DNS hosted their.
- factormeta 2y agojust edit /etc/hosts or run your own bind, and point dns to 127.0.0.1, no DNS root server needed!
- gorgoiler 2y agoOf course but the contention is that Internet infrastructure, of which DNS is a fairly indicative example, is controlled by US entities. It’s not, but it mostly is, and I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of other centralised components — hardware, cables, numbering, protocols — were similarly organized.
- qingcharles 2y agoIt would be very easy to run without DNS. Just have someone bring a decent sized chunk of the world's DNS entries into the country in a diplomatic pouch every month.
- notepad0x90 2y ago[flagged]
- night862 2y agoA bit of fun ... but my opinion is that a war with decades long ceasefire is common-law armistice. At the very least, stopping shelling is some sort of détente. I'll admit that "War" is a somewhat colloquial term nowadays, for better or worse.
- faggotbreath 2y ago[flagged]
- notepad0x90 2y agoI disagree, it is still war-proper if you have troops amassed at each others border, constantly training to invade each other and developing weapons (NK's ICBM aresnal) specifically to target the other guys (you need ICBMs to target america,not SK). If american policy changed and america withdrew troops from SK, there will be a continuation of the Korean war, since NK's leadership believes the US is the only thing standing in their way of unifying the korean people.
- night862 2y agoNK can't strike the United States. Their low-quality "ICBM" probably can't even target another continent. They really have poor ballistic missiles. On the other hand, NK can't be targeted except from a sub in the ocean, or over Russia by ours.
- notepad0x90 2y agoI thought they at least claimed they can hit the west coast of the US? and that US ICBMs, launched from the US mainland can strike any target in the world.
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- idiotsecant 2y agoThe US owns the world, the same way any big empire does. Exersice of soft power when it works, and violently explosive power when it doesn't. Power flows from the barrel of a gun, not from who owns some DNS servers.
- hash9 2y agoWhen was the last time they used that "explosive power" to good effect? They got humiliated in Afghanistan and Russia isn't even scared to act out any more. The only people who think America still rules the world is it's delusional populace.
- arresin 2y agoBoth conflicts were about punishment and troop training, and they achieved that. If they wanted to they could have razed every square km with conventional weapons alone.
- churchill 2y agoAmericans keep saying this and it makes me laugh every time, because you didn't learn anything from Vietnam. Just like in Vietnam, the stated goal was to replace the government - in this case, to remove the Taliban - that's why you created the Afghan National Army and their flimsy democracy. All told, the US has spent $8 trillion and several thousand young men on the GWOT. Once the US pulled out, the Taliban strolled back into Kabul. $8 trillion will reduce the US debt by 25%, or pay off all student debt, or build 80 million $100k homes. Wasted, and the only thing you have to show for it is nothing tangible, except more vibrant terror groups, and immigrants flooding Europe. Meanwhile, 8k US veterans die by suicide yearly. You had the firepower but failed to achieve your political goals. Just like in Vietnam, Iran, Syria, Laos, Cambodia, and more countries than I care to mention. While ruining the lives of innocent millions, of course. So, you failed. Admitting it might be hard, but it will bring the US to a place of humility and help you avoid adventures like this going forward. And to be pedantic, no you can't raze every sq. km of 652,860 km². Assuming, even just 1000 tons of explosives per km2, that's nearly 700 million tons of explosives. At $30k a ton, you'd be spending $21 trillion on enough explosives.