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It is always fascinates me how far people could go in a pursuit of their definition of a beauty. I'm not surprised at all when someone builds a keyboard from sc

by ordu 2y ago

It is always fascinates me how far people could go in a pursuit of their definition of a beauty. I'm not surprised at all when someone builds a keyboard from scratch because they do not like the arrangement of the keys: whether they are right or wrong, they see the problem and they try out a solution to it. But when people just create problems for themselves out of a thin air and insist on keeping these problems as pets, I just cannot fathom what goes in their heads. People are wonderful beings with an infinite individual variety, one cannot claim to truly understand it.

andrewflnr 2y ago
> I just cannot fathom what goes in their heads. Broadly, yes. But in this case, she explained the decision tree pretty clearly.
- bruce511 2y ago
  Look as a guy, who could care less about societal standards of beauty (mine or anyone elses) I feel under qualified to comment on the beauty choices of others. But I can say I felt the decision tree explanation in the article was unconvincing. Reviewers need long nails because photos? Because to some demographic long nails "look better". (Personally I think long nails look bad, but that's maybe just me.) I felt like the author like long nails. They're clearly invested in long nails. That should be enough to like or dislike the product. They should have to justify their desire for long nails. (Justifing it suggests they know it has disadvantages.) I concur that conforming to beauty standards in a world that both presents them as standards, then designs away from those standards consumes more energy than I have to expend.
  - jabagawee 2y ago
    I read the author's statement that they were "not out here wearing long nails for fun" to mean that they were not the one liking or invested in long nails. I may be reading too deeply between the lines, but I believe that reading the critical comments left by the "Internet Nail Police" may be more energy-consuming than the alternative of conforming to beauty standards. I felt a tone of sarcasm from the offense taken at "god forbid, there’s a smudge of dirt under [their] natural nail," which I took to mean that these comments are nitpicky and extremely likely to occur. Though it may be easy to brush off some amount of social scorn, being a public figure on the Internet comes with a volume of it that I've heard many influencers and content creators describe as difficult to cope with no matter how strong I assumed them to be.
  - andrewflnr 2y ago
    Yeah, I don't love it either and I can think of workarounds (short fake nails?), but it's silly to say you (the previous poster, rather) "cannot fathom what goes on in their head" when they've spelled it out.
jabagawee 2y ago
I'm not sure what you mean by people creating problems for themselves out of a thin air. The article explains the constraints (speed, accuracy, comfort, avoiding online criticism, attractiveness, etc) that the author lives with. Did you intend to point at a more general situation that you've encountered? I too cannot fathom what goes on in many people's heads and do not claim to truly understand them, but so far it's not been because they've created problems for themselves out of thin air and insisted on keeping these problems as pets.
- ordu 2y ago
  > The article explains the constraints (speed, accuracy, comfort, avoiding online criticism, attractiveness, etc) that the author lives with. Did you intend to point at a more general situation that you've encountered? Yes, I refer to a more general situation. It seems to me, that the author of the article explains her choice as a way to try products and to write reviews that would be useful for people with long manicured nails. I can accept this explanation and to understand that. But it means that there are other people who choose long nails for other reasons, aren't they?
  - dartos 2y ago
    How dare people prioritize their style and aesthetic over the utility their body provides. Let people have long nails if they want. This seems like a fine niche product if it works and is comfortable.
    - ordu 2y ago
      I didn't say that it is bad. I said I can't understand it. I also cant understand quantum mechanics, it doesn't mean that QM is bad.
gklitz 2y ago
> But when people just create problems for themselves out of a thin air and insist on keeping these problems as pets People aren’t creating these problems for themselves, society is. Think of it this way, you might have decided that you want to focus your carriers on Rust, but your workplace has put you on a task that requires C++, and you can whine and complain all you want, but that’s the requirement. Then you dig in, get the job done post a smart solution you made to make work on HN, and the first post is a Rust programmer calling you out for choosing C++ and making life difficult for yourself. And sure, you could just quit your job, but that’s a high consequence move. So to act like you chose this all on your own in a vacuum is just insulting.

by ordu 2y ago

andrewflnr 2y ago

> I just cannot fathom what goes in their heads. Broadly, yes. But in this case, she explained the decision tree pretty clearly.

bruce511 2y ago
Look as a guy, who could care less about societal standards of beauty (mine or anyone elses) I feel under qualified to comment on the beauty choices of others. But I can say I felt the decision tree explanation in the article was unconvincing. Reviewers need long nails because photos? Because to some demographic long nails "look better". (Personally I think long nails look bad, but that's maybe just me.) I felt like the author like long nails. They're clearly invested in long nails. That should be enough to like or dislike the product. They should have to justify their desire for long nails. (Justifing it suggests they know it has disadvantages.) I concur that conforming to beauty standards in a world that both presents them as standards, then designs away from those standards consumes more energy than I have to expend.
- jabagawee 2y ago
  I read the author's statement that they were "not out here wearing long nails for fun" to mean that they were not the one liking or invested in long nails. I may be reading too deeply between the lines, but I believe that reading the critical comments left by the "Internet Nail Police" may be more energy-consuming than the alternative of conforming to beauty standards. I felt a tone of sarcasm from the offense taken at "god forbid, there’s a smudge of dirt under [their] natural nail," which I took to mean that these comments are nitpicky and extremely likely to occur. Though it may be easy to brush off some amount of social scorn, being a public figure on the Internet comes with a volume of it that I've heard many influencers and content creators describe as difficult to cope with no matter how strong I assumed them to be.
- andrewflnr 2y ago
  Yeah, I don't love it either and I can think of workarounds (short fake nails?), but it's silly to say you (the previous poster, rather) "cannot fathom what goes on in their head" when they've spelled it out.

jabagawee 2y ago

I'm not sure what you mean by people creating problems for themselves out of a thin air. The article explains the constraints (speed, accuracy, comfort, avoiding online criticism, attractiveness, etc) that the author lives with. Did you intend to point at a more general situation that you've encountered? I too cannot fathom what goes on in many people's heads and do not claim to truly understand them, but so far it's not been because they've created problems for themselves out of thin air and insisted on keeping these problems as pets.

ordu 2y ago
> The article explains the constraints (speed, accuracy, comfort, avoiding online criticism, attractiveness, etc) that the author lives with. Did you intend to point at a more general situation that you've encountered? Yes, I refer to a more general situation. It seems to me, that the author of the article explains her choice as a way to try products and to write reviews that would be useful for people with long manicured nails. I can accept this explanation and to understand that. But it means that there are other people who choose long nails for other reasons, aren't they?
- dartos 2y ago
  How dare people prioritize their style and aesthetic over the utility their body provides. Let people have long nails if they want. This seems like a fine niche product if it works and is comfortable.
  - ordu 2y ago
    I didn't say that it is bad. I said I can't understand it. I also cant understand quantum mechanics, it doesn't mean that QM is bad.

gklitz 2y ago

> But when people just create problems for themselves out of a thin air and insist on keeping these problems as pets People aren’t creating these problems for themselves, society is. Think of it this way, you might have decided that you want to focus your carriers on Rust, but your workplace has put you on a task that requires C++, and you can whine and complain all you want, but that’s the requirement. Then you dig in, get the job done post a smart solution you made to make work on HN, and the first post is a Rust programmer calling you out for choosing C++ and making life difficult for yourself. And sure, you could just quit your job, but that’s a high consequence move. So to act like you chose this all on your own in a vacuum is just insulting.