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How many cars sold are new? How many owners have garages for charging?

nine_k 2y ago
Norway has put like 30 years of efforts into building up impressive electric transmission and EV-charging infrastructure. Check out e.g. these articles: https://cleantechnica.com/2023/03/08/how-norway-became-the-worlds-electric-car-capital/ https://cleantechnica.com/2023/03/08/how-norway-became-the-w... https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/automotive-and-assembly/our-insights/what-norways-experience-reveals-about-the-ev-charging-market https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/automotive-and-assembly/... Also note that the amount of habitable land in Norway is rather limited, so you don't get to drive hundreds of miles over flat highway-friendly terrain, like e.g. in the US Midwest.
- erik_seaberg 2y ago
  > Since more than 82% of EV users in Norway charge their vehicles at home, housing associations can apply for grants that subsidize up to 50 percent of the cost of buying and installing communal chargers. I'm familiar with parking in your own garage and charging, or parking on the street with no infrastructure, but I don't understand how far away these chargers would be and whether they're usable overnight.
  - theshrike79 2y ago
    Basically there's communal parking in the housing association's property, you can use the chargers there to charge. It's just a normal parking space, but with a charger.
ubercore 2y ago
Level 2 chargers are super common on a lot of houses, and there are plenty of other options around most towns and roads. I tend to see mostly new cars, no clue what the breakdown is, though.
mttch 2y ago
Who needs a garage for charging? I’ve got a 7kWh charger on my driveway but no garage. Over the road there are chargers on the street lamps. Where I live I’ve even seen charger cables run inside gullies under pavements for people with no driveways.
- binary132 2y ago
  possibly people in very cold northern climates
magicalhippo 2y ago
Due to the recent shifts in the economy, last year was a bit of a downer in terms of new cars sold[1], about 127000. In comparison 2021-2022 had roughly the same number of new cars sold[2], about 175000. The number of used cars sold was roughly the same across 2021-2023. In 2023 roughly 20% of cars sold were new cars. In 2021-2022 roughly 25% of cars sold were new cars. Roughly 50% of new cars in 2020 were BEVs. In 2023 that number was 82%. So far[3] in 2024 it's almost 87%. [1]: https://ofv.no/bilsalget/bilsalget-i-desember-2023 https://ofv.no/bilsalget/bilsalget-i-desember-2023 [2]: https://ofv.no/bilsalget/bilsalget-i-desember_2022 https://ofv.no/bilsalget/bilsalget-i-desember_2022 [3]: https://ofv.no/bilsalget/bilsalget-i-august-2024 https://ofv.no/bilsalget/bilsalget-i-august-2024

Norway has put like 30 years of efforts into building up impressive electric transmission and EV-charging infrastructure. Check out e.g. these articles: https://cleantechnica.com/2023/03/08/how-norway-became-the-worlds-electric-car-capital/ https://cleantechnica.com/2023/03/08/how-norway-became-the-w... https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/automotive-and-assembly/our-insights/what-norways-experience-reveals-about-the-ev-charging-market https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/automotive-and-assembly/... Also note that the amount of habitable land in Norway is rather limited, so you don't get to drive hundreds of miles over flat highway-friendly terrain, like e.g. in the US Midwest.

erik_seaberg 2y ago
> Since more than 82% of EV users in Norway charge their vehicles at home, housing associations can apply for grants that subsidize up to 50 percent of the cost of buying and installing communal chargers. I'm familiar with parking in your own garage and charging, or parking on the street with no infrastructure, but I don't understand how far away these chargers would be and whether they're usable overnight.
- theshrike79 2y ago
  Basically there's communal parking in the housing association's property, you can use the chargers there to charge. It's just a normal parking space, but with a charger.

ubercore 2y ago

Level 2 chargers are super common on a lot of houses, and there are plenty of other options around most towns and roads. I tend to see mostly new cars, no clue what the breakdown is, though.

mttch 2y ago

Who needs a garage for charging? I’ve got a 7kWh charger on my driveway but no garage. Over the road there are chargers on the street lamps. Where I live I’ve even seen charger cables run inside gullies under pavements for people with no driveways.

binary132 2y ago
possibly people in very cold northern climates

magicalhippo 2y ago

Due to the recent shifts in the economy, last year was a bit of a downer in terms of new cars sold[1], about 127000. In comparison 2021-2022 had roughly the same number of new cars sold[2], about 175000. The number of used cars sold was roughly the same across 2021-2023. In 2023 roughly 20% of cars sold were new cars. In 2021-2022 roughly 25% of cars sold were new cars. Roughly 50% of new cars in 2020 were BEVs. In 2023 that number was 82%. So far[3] in 2024 it's almost 87%. [1]: https://ofv.no/bilsalget/bilsalget-i-desember-2023 https://ofv.no/bilsalget/bilsalget-i-desember-2023 [2]: https://ofv.no/bilsalget/bilsalget-i-desember_2022 https://ofv.no/bilsalget/bilsalget-i-desember_2022 [3]: https://ofv.no/bilsalget/bilsalget-i-august-2024 https://ofv.no/bilsalget/bilsalget-i-august-2024