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NATO military committee chair, others back Ukraine's use of long range weapons

11 points by howard941 2y ago

ftyhbhyjnjk 2y ago
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casenmgreen 2y ago
Good. About time.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  Yep, pull the bandaid off and stop kowtowing to a nation state terrorist who will hold the world hostage with a nuclear arsenal until they’re no longer in power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrain... https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2024/06/russia-nuclear-war-threats?lang=en https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2024/0...
  - protomolecule 2y ago
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  - toomuchtodo 2y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41568861 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41568861 (“HN: One Million Are Now Dead or Injured in the Russia-Ukraine War”) https://www.wsj.com/world/one-million-are-now-dead-or-injured-in-the-russia-ukraine-war-b09d04e5 https://www.wsj.com/world/one-million-are-now-dead-or-injure... (“WSJ: One Million Are Now Dead or Injured in the Russia-Ukraine War“)
alex00 2y ago
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- casenmgreen 2y ago
  I could be wrong, but looks quite possibly to be a State run troll.
  - meiraleal 2y ago
    this kind of comment is against HN guideline
protomolecule 2y ago
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- kmos17 2y ago
  Only one country is fully responsible for this war, it is the one that invaded a sovereign country under false pretenses. Russia has been openly gearing up for war for quite some time, NATO expansion as an excuse to start a war is just propaganda.
  - hsyehbeidhh 2y ago
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  - protomolecule 2y ago
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- casenmgreen 2y ago
  All of those countries joined NATO because they themselves wanted to. No one forced them to do so. Everyone near Russia wanted to join NATO as quickly as possible because they were deeply worried about Russian invasion, having been invaded by Russia in the recent past, and given that Russia historically has always been territorially expansionist. Ukraine couldn't get in. Ukraine has been invaded. Georgia wasn't in either, and they were invaded as well. If I were anywhere near Russia, I'd start connecting up with my neighbours in a defensive alliance, too, and this brings us to a critical point; NATO is a defensive alliance. The treaty says each country considers an attack on a fellow member to be an attack on itself. If any NATO country goes off an invades another country, of its own accord, its on its own. Russia is not threatened by NATO, but Russia is stymied by NATO, because it blocks Russian territorial expansion. Russia of course also has its long history of propaganda and double-think; black is white, weak is strong, aggression is defence. Finally we must note the appalling sadism of Russian military forces in occupied territories, and of the Government toward the people of Russia.
  - protomolecule 2y ago

11 points by howard941 2y ago

ftyhbhyjnjk 2y ago

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casenmgreen 2y ago

Good. About time.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
Yep, pull the bandaid off and stop kowtowing to a nation state terrorist who will hold the world hostage with a nuclear arsenal until they’re no longer in power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrain... https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2024/06/russia-nuclear-war-threats?lang=en https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2024/0...
- protomolecule 2y ago
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- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41568861 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41568861 (“HN: One Million Are Now Dead or Injured in the Russia-Ukraine War”) https://www.wsj.com/world/one-million-are-now-dead-or-injured-in-the-russia-ukraine-war-b09d04e5 https://www.wsj.com/world/one-million-are-now-dead-or-injure... (“WSJ: One Million Are Now Dead or Injured in the Russia-Ukraine War“)

alex00 2y ago

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casenmgreen 2y ago
I could be wrong, but looks quite possibly to be a State run troll.
- meiraleal 2y ago
  this kind of comment is against HN guideline

protomolecule 2y ago

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kmos17 2y ago
Only one country is fully responsible for this war, it is the one that invaded a sovereign country under false pretenses. Russia has been openly gearing up for war for quite some time, NATO expansion as an excuse to start a war is just propaganda.
- hsyehbeidhh 2y ago
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- protomolecule 2y ago
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casenmgreen 2y ago
All of those countries joined NATO because they themselves wanted to. No one forced them to do so. Everyone near Russia wanted to join NATO as quickly as possible because they were deeply worried about Russian invasion, having been invaded by Russia in the recent past, and given that Russia historically has always been territorially expansionist. Ukraine couldn't get in. Ukraine has been invaded. Georgia wasn't in either, and they were invaded as well. If I were anywhere near Russia, I'd start connecting up with my neighbours in a defensive alliance, too, and this brings us to a critical point; NATO is a defensive alliance. The treaty says each country considers an attack on a fellow member to be an attack on itself. If any NATO country goes off an invades another country, of its own accord, its on its own. Russia is not threatened by NATO, but Russia is stymied by NATO, because it blocks Russian territorial expansion. Russia of course also has its long history of propaganda and double-think; black is white, weak is strong, aggression is defence. Finally we must note the appalling sadism of Russian military forces in occupied territories, and of the Government toward the people of Russia.
- protomolecule 2y ago