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There have been a lot of socialist countries that were proper and strong democracies, notably India. The result? Hundreds of millions in abject poverty in India

There have been a lot of socialist countries that were proper and strong democracies, notably India. The result? Hundreds of millions in abject poverty in India until socialism was given up in the 90s, and is slowly recovering.

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sofixa 2y ago
Funny you say that, Karnataka is an outlier beating its peers in all quality of life metrics and has been run by communist for decades. Also, modern day India has a very strong government intervention bias, especially regarding lifting people out of poverty. Be it investments in infrastructure (such as running water), or downright giving food to people. Good luck explaining how that isn't "socialism" to an American.
- alephnerd 2y ago
  > Funny you say that, Karnataka is an outlier beating its peers in all quality of life metrics and has been run by communist for decades. You mean Kerala, not Karnataka. And conversely, West Bengal was ruled by the Communists since the 1970s to the early 2010s, yet it's developmental indicators have regressed to those comparable to some of the poorest states of India. Conversely, right leaning and nativist Himachal Pradesh (if you ain't Pahadi or Pahadi-adjacent we will give you the cold shoulder, and both the state chapters of the HP INC and BJP trace their origins to the RSS and Arya Samaj) has developmental indicators that can match Kerala and other traditionally richer states in India. At the end of the day, all that matters is administrative capacity, not ideology. If local government is held accountable, it will work hard to deliver.