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Sweden to pay refugees up to 341,00 USD to return

12 points by diggan 2y ago

eesmith 2y ago
As we learned from Zappos, Swedes should therefore place more trust in those who don't take up the offer. Why? Quoting https://www.zippia.com/employer/zappos-hiring-for-culture-and-the-bizarre-things-they-do/ https://www.zippia.com/employer/zappos-hiring-for-culture-an... > About one week into their call center training, Zappos offers employees $3,000.00 to leave the company. I kid you not. $3,000.00 to leave – and this is around 4 weeks of pay for the employees. > If candidates haven’t become Zappos insiders, committed to the values and culture, then the company really prefers that they leave. ... > If you’re willing to take the company up on The Offer, you obviously don’t have the sense of commitment they are looking for. That’s why this tactic ensures that Zappos ends up with new hires who are committed, engaged employees who are a good culture fit.
gerikson 2y ago
The weird thousands separator placement, combined with the Central European usage of a decimal comma implies the total amount is $341, which frankly isn't much...
seper8 2y ago
341usd? more like 35000. Change the title.
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archgoon 2y ago
Comma is in the wrong spot. It's $34,000 USD (350k Krona).
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OutOfHere 2y ago
Humans are hopeless as they can't even agree to writing numbers in a consistent way, even when using the same language, so much so that the same writing can have an altogether different meaning.
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freefaler 2y ago
Hmm, this policy may backfire and not work as intended leading to a number of unintended consequences (a.k.a "Cobra effect"). If I'm a poor male it'll be great to pay get a loan of 5K-10K USD, be shipped to Sweden and then collect my reward of 34000 USD (350K Krona), return my loan and live off the rest for several months, before repeating the trip and getting some of the Sweden taxpayer's money. Or if I'm especially evil warloard/criminal in Congo or a comparable place, to kidnap one part of the family (the wife, the kids, the parents) and force the other part (the husband, the wife) to go to Sweden to collect the reward. From the article these are not discussed there, but may be they'd have though about these consequences. It looks like "we'd rather pay, than use force" scenario with taxpayer's money. P.S. The Cobra effect: The term comes from a story during British colonial rule in India. The British government, aiming to reduce the number of dangerous cobras, offered a bounty for every dead cobra. In response, enterprising individuals began breeding cobras to kill them and collect the bounty. When the government realized this, they canceled the program, leading the cobra breeders to release the now-worthless snakes, resulting in an even larger cobra population than before.
- jinushaun 2y ago
  I came here to post the same thing. This is the most obvious consequence of this policy.
- xenospn 2y ago
  At this point, I don’t think most Swedes will object to using force.
- gpjt 2y ago
  In Terry Pratchett's slightly modified version, Lord Vetinari's solution for the final step was more effective -- "tax the rat farms"

12 points by diggan 2y ago

As we learned from Zappos, Swedes should therefore place more trust in those who don't take up the offer. Why? Quoting https://www.zippia.com/employer/zappos-hiring-for-culture-and-the-bizarre-things-they-do/ https://www.zippia.com/employer/zappos-hiring-for-culture-an... > About one week into their call center training, Zappos offers employees $3,000.00 to leave the company. I kid you not. $3,000.00 to leave – and this is around 4 weeks of pay for the employees. > If candidates haven’t become Zappos insiders, committed to the values and culture, then the company really prefers that they leave. ... > If you’re willing to take the company up on The Offer, you obviously don’t have the sense of commitment they are looking for. That’s why this tactic ensures that Zappos ends up with new hires who are committed, engaged employees who are a good culture fit.

gerikson 2y ago

The weird thousands separator placement, combined with the Central European usage of a decimal comma implies the total amount is $341, which frankly isn't much...

seper8 2y ago

341usd? more like 35000. Change the title.

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archgoon 2y ago

Comma is in the wrong spot. It's $34,000 USD (350k Krona).

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OutOfHere 2y ago

Humans are hopeless as they can't even agree to writing numbers in a consistent way, even when using the same language, so much so that the same writing can have an altogether different meaning.

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freefaler 2y ago

Hmm, this policy may backfire and not work as intended leading to a number of unintended consequences (a.k.a "Cobra effect"). If I'm a poor male it'll be great to pay get a loan of 5K-10K USD, be shipped to Sweden and then collect my reward of 34000 USD (350K Krona), return my loan and live off the rest for several months, before repeating the trip and getting some of the Sweden taxpayer's money. Or if I'm especially evil warloard/criminal in Congo or a comparable place, to kidnap one part of the family (the wife, the kids, the parents) and force the other part (the husband, the wife) to go to Sweden to collect the reward. From the article these are not discussed there, but may be they'd have though about these consequences. It looks like "we'd rather pay, than use force" scenario with taxpayer's money. P.S. The Cobra effect: The term comes from a story during British colonial rule in India. The British government, aiming to reduce the number of dangerous cobras, offered a bounty for every dead cobra. In response, enterprising individuals began breeding cobras to kill them and collect the bounty. When the government realized this, they canceled the program, leading the cobra breeders to release the now-worthless snakes, resulting in an even larger cobra population than before.

jinushaun 2y ago
I came here to post the same thing. This is the most obvious consequence of this policy.
xenospn 2y ago
At this point, I don’t think most Swedes will object to using force.
gpjt 2y ago
In Terry Pratchett's slightly modified version, Lord Vetinari's solution for the final step was more effective -- "tax the rat farms"