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It’s lower than quality in most cases. Fast fashion is about shopping for entertainment, and that means it needs to be cheap with a lot of variety. The planned

It’s lower than quality in most cases. Fast fashion is about shopping for entertainment, and that means it needs to be cheap with a lot of variety. The planned obsolesce is a core part of it. Not many people are buying Dior, or even just Adidas and throwing it away each week. I’ve bought something from HM , it was the shittiest quality garment I’ve ever worn. Lasted about a week. It looked ok but it was made to fall apart. Fast fashion is bad for the environment.

trinix912 2y ago
While I agree with this, I have quite a few cheap items bought at NewYorker (a European fast fashion chain) that have long outlasted “quality” brands that cost 5-10x as much. It seems like even long standing brands have enshittified to the point where fast fashion doesn’t seem much worse quality-wise.
wenc 2y ago
> Fast fashion is bad for the environment. I don't disagree with this, but I feel it's mostly to do with the volume and consumer demand (by the shopper types) rather than quality. > It’s lower than quality in most cases. Fast fashion is about shopping for entertainment, and that means it needs to be cheap with a lot of variety. The planned obsolesce is a core part of it. Quality-wise, not necessarily true -- depends on the purveyors. Yes, Zara (Spanish) and H&M (Swedish) are generally lower quality (Zara is hit or miss, H&M is uniformly lower quality), but Uniqlo (Japanese) clothing are decently high quality and cost slightly more. Most Uniqlo clothing I own have lasted years. The MTBF is about 5-6 years. It's a bit like saying IKEA is fast-furniture. Yes, people have made fun of IKEA being a vendor of low quality particle board furniture, but my IKEA bookcases have survived > 5 cross-country moves over the last 24 years.
- bamboozled 2y ago
  I don't believe Uniqlo falls under the fast fashion umbrella though. It's practical clothing, yes. But young people rarely shop at Uniqlo to pickup a new skirt before going out on Friday night. Uniqlo, at least in Japan, isn't the cheaper stuff either.
gklitz 2y ago
You walked straight into the point, fast fashion has nothing to do with quality, it’s about releasing products faster. Adidas is fast fashion and has at least weekly updates to its portfolio.

trinix912 2y ago

While I agree with this, I have quite a few cheap items bought at NewYorker (a European fast fashion chain) that have long outlasted “quality” brands that cost 5-10x as much. It seems like even long standing brands have enshittified to the point where fast fashion doesn’t seem much worse quality-wise.

wenc 2y ago

> Fast fashion is bad for the environment. I don't disagree with this, but I feel it's mostly to do with the volume and consumer demand (by the shopper types) rather than quality. > It’s lower than quality in most cases. Fast fashion is about shopping for entertainment, and that means it needs to be cheap with a lot of variety. The planned obsolesce is a core part of it. Quality-wise, not necessarily true -- depends on the purveyors. Yes, Zara (Spanish) and H&M (Swedish) are generally lower quality (Zara is hit or miss, H&M is uniformly lower quality), but Uniqlo (Japanese) clothing are decently high quality and cost slightly more. Most Uniqlo clothing I own have lasted years. The MTBF is about 5-6 years. It's a bit like saying IKEA is fast-furniture. Yes, people have made fun of IKEA being a vendor of low quality particle board furniture, but my IKEA bookcases have survived > 5 cross-country moves over the last 24 years.

bamboozled 2y ago
I don't believe Uniqlo falls under the fast fashion umbrella though. It's practical clothing, yes. But young people rarely shop at Uniqlo to pickup a new skirt before going out on Friday night. Uniqlo, at least in Japan, isn't the cheaper stuff either.

gklitz 2y ago

You walked straight into the point, fast fashion has nothing to do with quality, it’s about releasing products faster. Adidas is fast fashion and has at least weekly updates to its portfolio.