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That makes me think, will we have car theft in the future where someone hacks your self driving car and it makes off on itself in the night? The next day you wa

That makes me think, will we have car theft in the future where someone hacks your self driving car and it makes off on itself in the night? The next day you wake up to notice that your car has left you for someone else?

pdimitar 2y ago
Only a matter of time IMO, and quite the short one at that. Car thieves are an adaptive bunch.
dageshi 2y ago
I think this is one of the reasons (among many) why self driving cars will largely be robo taxi's. I'd trust google to maintain the security in a fleet of robo taxi's where cars can be brought in, modified or replaced relatively quickly over Tesla trying to convince individual owners to do the same...
- prmoustache 2y ago
  Only if cities remove all permanent parking space and it forces people to switch. People are too attached with property and social status stuff.
  - dageshi 2y ago
    Existing people are, in a world where your teenager has been getting self driving robo taxi's to their friends house since the age of 13 I'm not sure if they'll magically want a car when they reach the legal age to drive, hell there's people now who uber everywhere over learning to drive. Beyond that, it seems like the nature of self driving might be one of gradual incremental improvement, where in order to actually develop it you more or less have to run a fleet of robo taxi's in different places with different climates and different road conditions. Finally, the people most likely to deliver it are google (waymo) and I think they have zero desire to sell cars to consumers but are literally running a taxi service as we speak.
poikroequ 2y ago
Self driving cars aren't fully autonomous yet. They occasionally require human intervention to make decisions, which I would guess makes it difficult to steal these cars without being detected. They're constantly cloud connected and so they know where the car is at all times. I imagine these factors may deter theft of self driving cars for a while longer. Repossessing a self driving car, on the other hand...
- tzs 2y ago
  The plan when having a self driving car help you steal it would not be to have it self-drive from the owner's home in, say, San Francisco, to a chop shop in Tijuana where you gang awaits, thus requiring it to make a long trip without human intervention. It would be have it self-drive from the owner's home to someplace nearby not associated with the the thieves to get it out of sight from the owner's security cameras and whatever other security cameras in the neighborhood might be watching where the gang can disable the cloud connection and then transport it by truck or driving it in manual mode to their chop shop.

pdimitar 2y ago

Only a matter of time IMO, and quite the short one at that. Car thieves are an adaptive bunch.

dageshi 2y ago

I think this is one of the reasons (among many) why self driving cars will largely be robo taxi's. I'd trust google to maintain the security in a fleet of robo taxi's where cars can be brought in, modified or replaced relatively quickly over Tesla trying to convince individual owners to do the same...

prmoustache 2y ago
Only if cities remove all permanent parking space and it forces people to switch. People are too attached with property and social status stuff.
- dageshi 2y ago
  Existing people are, in a world where your teenager has been getting self driving robo taxi's to their friends house since the age of 13 I'm not sure if they'll magically want a car when they reach the legal age to drive, hell there's people now who uber everywhere over learning to drive. Beyond that, it seems like the nature of self driving might be one of gradual incremental improvement, where in order to actually develop it you more or less have to run a fleet of robo taxi's in different places with different climates and different road conditions. Finally, the people most likely to deliver it are google (waymo) and I think they have zero desire to sell cars to consumers but are literally running a taxi service as we speak.

poikroequ 2y ago

Self driving cars aren't fully autonomous yet. They occasionally require human intervention to make decisions, which I would guess makes it difficult to steal these cars without being detected. They're constantly cloud connected and so they know where the car is at all times. I imagine these factors may deter theft of self driving cars for a while longer. Repossessing a self driving car, on the other hand...

tzs 2y ago
The plan when having a self driving car help you steal it would not be to have it self-drive from the owner's home in, say, San Francisco, to a chop shop in Tijuana where you gang awaits, thus requiring it to make a long trip without human intervention. It would be have it self-drive from the owner's home to someplace nearby not associated with the the thieves to get it out of sight from the owner's security cameras and whatever other security cameras in the neighborhood might be watching where the gang can disable the cloud connection and then transport it by truck or driving it in manual mode to their chop shop.