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It's absolutely amazing to see a large fraction of of otherwise reasonable people supporting censorship by fairly problematic governments because 'musk bad'. I

by fooker 2y ago

It's absolutely amazing to see a large fraction of of otherwise reasonable people supporting censorship by fairly problematic governments because 'musk bad'. Is there a name for this phenomenon? Kind of seems like a reverse ad hominem.

TiredOfLife 2y ago
It's called human nature. Everything i like is good, everything i don't is bad.
- fooker 2y ago
  It seems more nuanced. X (government abuse of online censorship, not Twitter) is bad. Bad person Y says X is bad. Now suddenly X is good. The irony being that everyone equated Y with batman a year or two ago.
philistine 2y ago
There is zero possibility in your mind not that the Brazilian government is indeed correct, but that Elon Musk is a huge hypocrite and that how he navigates this bad situation displays how dangerous he is?
- fooker 2y ago
  Elon Musk being a huge hypocrite/ dangerous/etc doesn't have any bearing on whether governments should have the power to snoop on private conversations online and block out voices they disagree with on a case by case basis.
  - philistine 2y ago
    Well, tell that to Elon Musk, who folded to the Turkish and Indian governments (both right-wing and aligned towards Musk I might add) and removed content worldwide on orders from the Indian government. Suddenly when Brazil wants censorship, who's not bending the knee to Musk, it's a whole problem for him? https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/4/24235213/x-brazil-suppression-speech-elon-musk-india-turkey https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/4/24235213/x-brazil-suppress...
    - fooker 2y ago
      I'm not sure if you are getting the point. Your opinion about censorship should not depend on whether Elon Musk is a hypocrite. Maybe it'll help to think in terms of fictional characters to get over your Elon Musk obsession. If Voldemort suddenly started criticizing Umbridge, it doesn't automatically make Umbridge a great character, no matter how much you hate Voldemort.
    - inemesitaffia 2y ago
      You don't realize what is actually going on. Are you familiar with super injunctions and the associated issues?
aSithLord 2y ago
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by fooker 2y ago

TiredOfLife 2y ago

It's called human nature. Everything i like is good, everything i don't is bad.

fooker 2y ago
It seems more nuanced. X (government abuse of online censorship, not Twitter) is bad. Bad person Y says X is bad. Now suddenly X is good. The irony being that everyone equated Y with batman a year or two ago.

philistine 2y ago

There is zero possibility in your mind not that the Brazilian government is indeed correct, but that Elon Musk is a huge hypocrite and that how he navigates this bad situation displays how dangerous he is?

fooker 2y ago
Elon Musk being a huge hypocrite/ dangerous/etc doesn't have any bearing on whether governments should have the power to snoop on private conversations online and block out voices they disagree with on a case by case basis.
- philistine 2y ago
  Well, tell that to Elon Musk, who folded to the Turkish and Indian governments (both right-wing and aligned towards Musk I might add) and removed content worldwide on orders from the Indian government. Suddenly when Brazil wants censorship, who's not bending the knee to Musk, it's a whole problem for him? https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/4/24235213/x-brazil-suppression-speech-elon-musk-india-turkey https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/4/24235213/x-brazil-suppress...
  - fooker 2y ago
    I'm not sure if you are getting the point. Your opinion about censorship should not depend on whether Elon Musk is a hypocrite. Maybe it'll help to think in terms of fictional characters to get over your Elon Musk obsession. If Voldemort suddenly started criticizing Umbridge, it doesn't automatically make Umbridge a great character, no matter how much you hate Voldemort.
  - inemesitaffia 2y ago
    You don't realize what is actually going on. Are you familiar with super injunctions and the associated issues?

aSithLord 2y ago

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