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As much as we all love to dunk on Intel, it's good to have competition. Even if it's via the support of the military industrial complex, we still all benefit wh
by freeqaz 2y ago
As much as we all love to dunk on Intel, it's good to have competition. Even if it's via the support of the military industrial complex, we still all benefit when there are more companies making chips (especially at home for those in the US).
- cced 2y agoWe don’t all benefit when the MIC gets more chips..
- golergka 2y ago[flagged]
- cced 2y ago> We do. Pax Americana is unprecedented time in world history. Unless you’re high up in one of the MIC companies I need to disagree. Who’s the “we”? Countries on the receiving end of “foreign ‘aid’”? Americans receiving improvements to their standards and quality of life because government expenditures are made on infrastructure and services instead of warring? Wasn’t 1.6B just approved to fund anti-CN disinformation/propaganda? I guess if a large part of the world’s population, domestic and international, doesn’t fall within your definition of “we” then sure.
- shepherdjerred 2y agoWhat period of time would you rather live in?
- marricks 2y agoThere were these ancient Ukranian mega cities 6-4k years ago that stood for thousands of years. They had gardens, and what appeared to be a complex social life. Notably, they had no walls, meaning there was nothing to protect themselves from. Peace. So yeah, there sounds a lot better. No walls to stop friends from coming, or you from leaving if you happen to not like it. Just because we lack imagination doesn't mean a better world can't exist and didn't exist somewhere in the past.
- shepherdjerred 2y agoIgnoring whether or not that actually existed, that's as useful as saying "I'd rather be a lottery winner or a king". The point is that the average person is better off today than they were any time in the past by many metrics, e.g. life expectancy, quality of life or access to healthcare. Nobody said the status quo doesn't need to be changed, only that we should appreciate the pax americana despite its faults.
- knowitnone 2y agoYou have no proof of that
- Loughla 2y agoWhat are you talking about?
- analognoise 2y agoThey had no walls, were peaceful, and were suddenly gone? Sounds like they probably regretted not building walls.
- golergka 2y agoThat expenditure keeps maritime trade safe and armed conflicts on levels unseen anytime in human history. This benefits all of the world's population. If americans suddenly decide that they want to be isolationists again, inflation of 2020s and wars such as Russian invasion of Ukraine will look like child's play.
- Loughla 2y agoLegitimately what is a better time in history for the total amount of human suffering to be less? Countries that are just awful to be in have always existed. I'm willing to bet that a smaller percent of humans are in misery today than ever in history. Thoughts?
- pests 2y agoI remember Bill Gates recommending a book on his book list a few years (half a decade?) ago about how, by every measurable stat, life is better now than it has ever been in the past.
- losvedir 2y agoFactfulness by Hans Rosling you're probably thinking of.
- pests 2y agoI think that's it! Thanks. I remember the subtitle.
- DiscourseFan 2y agoBill Gates has profited immensely from the current world order, why wouldn't he say its great?
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y agoDo you have any savings, investments, or work for a company that sells something globally? You've benefited too.
- CamperBob2 2y agoHe showed his numbers. Let's see yours.
- DiscourseFan 2y ago
- kevin_thibedeau 2y agoThe MIC invented this communications medium.
- colinsane 2y agoand a Finn invented the kernel that powers the servers, a Frenchman invented the compression used in the bitstreams, and a German made the standard library/runtime that everything else stands atop: if we gave loyalty to all the inventors we're benefiting from right now it would be impossible to go to war with anyone.
- krisoft 2y ago> if we gave loyalty to all the inventors we're benefiting from right now it would be impossible to go to war with anyone. You say as if that is some bad thing?
- 20after4 2y agoYou say that as if it's a bad thing.
- jazzyjackson 2y agoand they might not have been able to without that MIC that everyone likes to dunk on
- dyauspitr 2y agoI don’t like dunking on Intel. It’s one of the only advanced all American foundry left, I don’t want them gone.
- threatripper 2y agoTheir technology deserves a lot of praise but their anti-competitive business practices should be shamed. If there was a way to separate the two i would love to see intel as a business go bankrupt but intel as a foundry live on.
- dyauspitr 2y agoTheir existence seems tenuous at this point so any criticism, warranted or not could bring the whole thing down in my opinion. At that point the only place making advanced chips is the far east.
- jajko 2y agoIf a bit of fair criticism can bring down whole company, they are already gone. Unfair criticism can be easily debunked and any rational person will ignore it. Market needs as much competition as possible since everybody else benefits from that, but it needs to have some solid foundations, not just wishful thinking or protectionism. if there will be a market hole, others will fill in. If you can't trust ie British or other western chips, why should rest of the world (aka 95% of mankind) trust US ones.
- dyauspitr 2y agoEh I don’t think anyone in the states will fill the hole if intel collapses so talk of a robust market and competition is kind of moot. I feel you have to do whatever it takes to prop it up because once it’s gone it’s never coming back.